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Hi folks,
I was wondering how old this Chinese hardwood plant stand/pedestal might be?
I've seen some in a design that looks similar (but are brand new), but those are more 'stiff' in the 'carving' and with only 4 legs that are sold on alibaba and other similar sites.
Could this be early to mid 20th century, or might it be a bit older?
Forgot to add that it is around 65-70cm tall.
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Hello Michael.
I would like more pictures if poss.
Certainly a closeup of the underside, a few closeups of the joints which look poorly finished from a distance and a closeup of the decoration to see for signs of machine grinder tools etc. I would like to see what's holding the decoration pieces onto the legs. There looks to be liberal and sloppy use of wood glue. A closeup of one of the feet might help too. I think its 20th century but there is a world of difference between 1910 and 1970 which of course with your experience you will know. Best wishes
Just a thought Michael. The piece may not even be Chinese! "English Chinoiserie" is a distinct possibility. Once the decorative panels are removed there is nothing to say that its from China.
Hello Michael.
I would like more pictures if poss.
Certainly a closeup of the underside, a few closeups of the joints which look poorly finished from a distance and a closeup of the decoration to see for signs of machine grinder tools etc. I would like to see what's holding the decoration pieces onto the legs. There looks to be liberal and sloppy use of wood glue. A closeup of one of the feet might help too. I think its 20th century but there is a world of difference between 1910 and 1970 which of course with your experience you will know. Best wishes
Hi, I don't have any more pictures. It is something that I'm supposed to go look at before I commit to buying sometime this week or early next week (due to European distance sale consumer rights). I have to admit that I was thinking the visible glue was probably old sloppy amateur repairs, and it hadn't even crossed my mind that it could be 'English Chinoiserie'. :O
So, I guess what I would need is a checklist to know what to look for. Machine grinder marks are very regular, and would be easiest to see on the backside of the panels, or?? The joints look like they are either not well fitted, or that the wood hasn't been as well treated as it should have been and dried out a bit?
And thank you!
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yes I also would be very cautious about this - looks like the panels have been stuck on as a later 'enhancement', they are a different shade of brown. Still, it's quite an attractive stand, whatever the exact origin, as long as the price is right.
tam
I will certainly look for that as well, Tam. Thanks
I wonder about the depression on the top. I haven't been able to find examples that have that. Might this have had a marble top, and the current wood one is just a substitute?
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There seems to be two depressions. I wonder if there was a carved surface above the innermost circles which was protected by glass. I have seen that before on oblong tables, often with damage, glass cracked or missing.
Not seen it on a circular top but it is possibility, I suppose.
As someone who knows nothing about this kind of antiques I would guess the depression is made to prevent flower pots or vases from falling off the table.
Birgit
Judging by the dark circle left by the pot that sat on this for a number of years, if it once had a glass top it was some time ago. These often have a marble or faux marble insert to protect the wood from the moisture in the plant pot but I have seen them bare, like this, too.
The carved panels are likely original but have not faded as much as the rest? This could be because they’r made of a different wood. The fading and slight separation in the joints suggests this may have spent some time in a conservatory where it has been subjected to extremes of light and temperature.
These are often said to be "circa1900" but as "circa" covers 20 years earlier or later it is often used as a catch-all description. My best guess would be 1920s. If you look at the colour of the wood on the inside or the lower leg bracings and the colour of the carved panels, it gives you a good idea of the original colour of this piece. The fact that it has faded a bit isn't the end of the world, but this fact should be reflected in the price.
I found this website where you’ll find similar items:
http://www.onlinegalleries.com/art-and-antiques/search/plateaux-and-tazza-oriental-hardwood-europe
I ended up not buying the stand. There were several factors that played a role, including a condition issue (two of the joints on the bottom ring had separated) and just a general feel that this item wasn't antique.
I want to thank everyone who advised on this! Appreciated!
~ Decorative Arts, Antiques and Accessories, at Mollari's ~ www.mollaris.com
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