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I purchased this dish and I wanted to make sure it was M&P Tongzhi. First I have a hard time determining this from Guangxu any tips please. I wanted a chicken piece for awhile for my 19th century shelf. My second question is what was this small dish used for. Thanks for any help
Looks fine to my eyes for Tongzhi period.
Mark
There's a general belief that handwritten Tongzhi seal marks are period, whereas stamped Tongzhi seal marks are later. How true it is, I'm not sure. I think it is a tazza.
From my knowledge stamped seal marks first appeared in or about 1875-1880.
Generally speaking most but not all tongzhi porcelain had rough footing. This problem within the kilns was finally rectified by the guangxu period.
So if you see rough footing along with a hand-written mark then it's highly probable to be genuine and period.
Mark
@imperialfinegems Mark thank you for that footing tip I didn’t know this but it does help with my dating issue. Much appreciated
So when your out and about and you see it has a unusual course footing by rubbing your finger over it then it's highly probable to be genuine.
My chicken cup from the Tongzhi period. Perhaps a little bit difficult to see but you get my meaning.
@imperialfinegems no I do I thought mine was that way because of dirt but I scrubbed it and nothing came off I was worried my foot was to dirty. I’ve also wondered why they are signed by owners see this a lot in that time period.
Nice little dish! How wide and tall is it?
Hi Brian,
Often you will encounter plates/other that has initials engraved on them.
From my understanding it's simply to identify who owns the item. Often used in a communal setting were people share or the items belonging to a number of people are all cleaned at the same time.
Mark
@johnshoe it is 2.5 inches by 4.5 inches. You would have been surprised how many bidders wanted this chicken dish chicken are popular.
@lotusblack Yeah, people are going cookoo for chickens. We've got an old painting of a rooster that we can't figure out who it's by. Hopefully it will turn out to be worth a million dollars and not a million birdseeds.
@lotusblack It's packed away but once it's back out I can show it to you. It seems to have a Western signature that as I recall I think looks like "Blaise". It's had me baffled for quite a while. I figure it's European or American but I don't know. It's not new though, that much I'm sure of.
@lotusblack Here's the painting I mentioned that you wanted to see. The name R. Blaise seems pretty clear but I haven't figured out who that is. John
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