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@johnshoe So, I Googled 'Chinese etched porcelain vase' and a few exmamples with calligraphy came up, but none with the nice faces you have on your vase. All were very modern.
So, I took a very close look at your photos...
Here's the face..
There are thick lines, and very thin lines. I don't think this can be achieved with etching/scratching the surface of porcelain without some micro chipping, so I think the face is simply painted on. Perhaps the textural aspects are just due to the thickness of the black enamel.
However, the writing of your vase is definately etched.... take a look....
You can see the back and forth motion of an electric engraving/etching tool. The tip was not large enough to do the entire character in one motion, so you can see one side of the character in one motion, then the other part of the character in another motion. Then, the black color was added later.
Here is the character of one of the modern 'etched' calligraphy vases I found online....
This character is finer lined, so it appears the etching tool was used in a single motion per character stroke.
Still, there's a lot of mystery behind your vase, especially when we are only seeing pieces of a larger puzzle. I like the rendering, so hopefully you'll post the entire piece so we can see the overall shape, balance, composition, etc.
BTW... the foot looks late 20th c.
@greeno107 I believe the entire thing is etched. I don't think there is any color added anywhere. Nothing looks painted. The shading seems to have been achieved entirely through the etching process. The very fine lines are indeed scratched into the surface, they are not painted, which is clear when examined under magnification, and also because you can feel them with your fingernails, actually being able to dig down into the grooves. The deeper the area is etched, the darker the area is, and that seems to be how they controlled the shading, although I'm not exactly sure why it worked that way because I still don't understand the process. The etched areas, when examined closely, have a light to dark range of grey stonelike color and texture.
Tim may be right, parts of her hair do look to have a wash of colour but it is hard to tell from photos. Do her eyes have the same texture close up as the calligraphy?
Looking forward to seeing the whole vase.
@johnshoe That's a modern foot ring...late 20th / early 21st c.
The image of women are not close enough to tell if they are painted or etched into the porcelain... a real close up of the fine black lines would be great to see.
However, this one photo seems telling....
You can see the jumpiness of the lines... like a needle being dragged while it is going in/out (electric engraver).
So, I do think it is mostly (if not completely) an etched porcelain vase.
It's a nice vase you have posted John.
However, I completely agree with @Greeno107 comments. It's a much more recent examples.
I think it's probably a mixture of both hand and drill carved.
Mark
Again, the newest it could be is 1985, but given that it was bought used at an auction that year, it is a likely a little bit older than that. Here are some closer ups that hopefully give a more detailed view of the etching and will more clearly show how no added color was used. It is 100% etched.
@julia I have not seen proof. However, the seller seems very credible, and there was no financial incentive for them to lie, so I have no doubt that I was given accurate information to the best of their ability to recall. The previous owners bought it as a curiosity piece at their local auction house and used it to display artificial flower arrangements over the years. In fact, they sweetly offered the flower arrangement for an additional fee. I suppose it is now time for them to simplify and start clearing things out. They initially didn't have any information about it's purchase history. I had to ask them, and so they looked into it and managed to figure out the year. They didn't seem to have any other Asian items, and they actually listed this as Japanese, so it is safe to say we aren't dealing with anything deliberately misleading. Plus, the price was not a hardship, so they weren't looking to squeeze anybody based on a false premise. I imagine it is a product of the 50's-70's. But regardless of when it was made, it's quite an impressive thing as far as I'm concerned. What I am most curious about is whether other similar examples exist, or if this was some one off, special commission piece. Also, I'm curious about the scene and if there is a historical story it is in reference to. I'm sure more will be revealed in time. I'll share whatever I learn, and perhaps others will chime in with more info as well.
What a nice vase. Very Aubrey Beardsley in style of decoration. Looks from the photo's to have been etched using the same technique that an engraver would use in etching a cooper or steel plate to achieve, shade and light and perspective by making some lines deeper and wider, some shallow and narrower. Wonder if the vase was etched, prior to being fired, then black ink rubbed in the lines after glazing in white and firing. If the etching was done after firing surely the glaze would be chipped all around the lines. Hope somebody can find some information on the technique a very interesting find in my view regardless of age. Thanks for posting.
Cheers
Michael
Interesting. It looks like the decoration describes traditional skills of "accomplishment" women - or something like that.
Any idea what the writing says?
One aspect I forgot to mention is that I can see inside where the vase looks like it was made in two sections, top half and bottom half, then joined together. I know that pieces were sometimes made that way, but I am curious if they still make them like that in the modern era, or if that would have changed at some point. At any rate, I wasn't sure if that might help establish a timeline cutoff to work with for dating purposes?
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