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Please help: got it from estate sale. The glaze is extremely white, the B&W is on top of the glaze and one can feel it. It was converted into a lamp in 50s or 60s. Name and period?
Hi Jim,
the design looks printed to me. The vase was probably made about the same time when it was converted into a lamp.
Birgit
Thanks, Shinigami. It looks like printed because the B&W color is on the top, rather than beneath the glaze as traditionally. I checked the pictures, it does not look like repeated pattern. I just took away the lamp and have some photos of the bottom.
I inspected the painting under 10x and 30x loupes, there is no print grid, nor print lines. So it is hand painted. The drawing was good, the brushing was just so so.
There is a clue in the red mark, which says hand painted ! But I think it is badly done, see for example the deer.
tam
Hi,
I would say this was made to be a lamp. No reign mark would be placed so far to one side. This is also, I believe, a typical (stamped?) mark from the 60s/70s.
I think the outlines looked printed and coloured in by hand.
Best wishes,
Julia
Yes, I agree with Julia, the outlines were printed and then filled by hand, so they could call it hand painted. You see no grid, because it's no screen printing but transfer printing.
Birgit
Thanks, Tam, Julia and Shinigami. I doubted it is transfer printing. Again I could not find clues on it. Particularly if you look at the paintings on the up and bottom rims, they are not like print.
BTW, Julia, marks in 60s and 70s are particularly regulated by Chinese government and recognizable. It is most likely a mark in 50s. Faked production after 80s also use such marks. However, this piece is not that modern though looks like new in picture. There are many large and small bubbles. The lamp base is also old.
Interestingly it is overglaze, and not underglaze B&W. Accordingly to some literature, it should be called as Blue Enamel Porcelain. Is that right?
Hi Jim,
Thank you, I should have said that I have seen many items described as 1960s/70s or around that time, using this mark. Whether they are actually from that period, I would not know for certain, so I shouldn't have made my comment sound like fact. ?
You could study the faces on your vase and compare them to earlier items? Or search for similarly decorated foot rims. I guess this could possibly be a Japanese piece pretending to be Chinese? What are the electrical fittings like - or have they been brought up to date?
Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Just realised I didn't answer the blue enamel query. To be honest, I have no idea about that but, it did occur to me that these vases may have been mass-produced with a simple glaze and sold on to be decorated elsewhere. Could that be possible?
Julia
Julia,
It does not matter - I am learning here, any kind of comments (positive or negative) are welcome and appreciated. It's Chinese style, I am sure as I have lived in both China and Japan for many years. Most porcelain from Mainland China in 60s and 70s have marks of "Jindezhenzhi".
Jim
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