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Purchased 25 years ago , two bowls with matching saucers. Done in a butterfly and squash blossom design, there is a Qianlong mark on each piece hand painted over the glaze in enamels. I know these marks were put on later pieces - especially that were of better quality. These are nicely potted, but there are contractions in the glaze and the last photo shows a larger glaze flaw and the interior of the foot seems rough to me comparing to other pieces I have. I wasn’t certain why such detailed paintings would be done on later pieces when, I assume the quality would be better. These pieces seem to be well painted with details that are hard to see unless magnified. The details under the red butterfly wings are beautifully executed. Another question is the one dark butterfly on each saucer that is shown in flight, instead of the flat, static design of the others with the exception of the yellow butterflies on the bowls. It seems not to match the design / colorways of the bowls. The bowls and saucers were certainly paired together, but the saucers have this one dark butterfly. Did the enamels react to the atmosphere? Was this intentional? I appreciate any
comments and expertise. The Bowls are 4 1/2” dia X 2” H (11.4 X 5 cm) And the saucers are 4” dia. X 1” H (10 X 2.5 cm)
Lovely bowls! I might be completely wrong but they have a Republic touch to me.
Birgit
Hi Con54 -
These are coping the ‘Melon vine and Butterflies’ design, which is found only on a few Qinglong period pieces but became popular in the 19th century - see attached images of early 19th century dish.
I would concur with Birgit re dating of your pieces, there probably Republic.
Stuart
I wouldn't worry about the dark butterfly; I suspect that it gives more focus to the plates' decoration than one of a different, paler colour may have done. If I attempt to imagine it into a different colour, the design loses something.
Thank you Birgit, yes you are probably correct. I'm not experienced enough with porcelain to know the quality of pieces from different periods. The glaze body is nice, but I have pieces with much better surfaces, but these are the most 'precise' in the way they are painted, so was puzzled by the combination. Thank you again for your insight.
Thank you Stuart - this is most helpful. I read somewhere these reign marks were popular on Republic pieces of better quality in the 1920's. As I responded to Birgit, the painting is very 'precise' - much more detail than any other pieces that I have, but the porcelain body glaze is not as good as other pieces. It made me wonder why so much effort painting over a glaze field that has flaws and skips, one of which can be seen in the center of my last photo. The contrast of the dark butterfly in the saucers also makes more sense seeing your examples you included, as they have notable contrasting elements. From my reading, these could be from the 1920's. It's the glaze flaws that still puzzles me, but perhaps that was normal for the period. Thank you again for the response and examples.
Thank you Julia - yes, I suppose you are right, especially after looking at Stuart's examples. It just seems odd to my untrained eye to only have the dark butterflies on the saucers and not the cups - they are so different from the motif as a whole. I thought perhaps it had some symbolism or history (or color change due to the environment) to why only on the saucers. Thank you for your response.
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