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I bought this large Ginger jar vase Noir Verte for $30 bucks looks Guangxu I’m looking to resell it. The mark is unusual any translation is appreciated.
Hi Brian,
I think it’s Japanese Famille Noir.
Best,
Christian
It does look like a Japanese mark I can’t tell the difference on these from Japanese or Chinese.
Mark is Chinese character “Shou” for Long Life. I think this is Chinese ca. 1900.
George
I have seen Chinese ones with rocks and birds.
I am not sure at the moment. I keep changing my mind. If it didn't have the mark, I may be more tempted to say Chinese.
If it is Japanese, I wouldn't call it Nippon ware unless that has a broader meaning than I am aware of.
I feel the mark would be odd for a Chinese piece around 1900 and the red along with the style of writing are very similar to the style of the characters on the base of the I man ri piece on Gotheborg in the Japanese marks section.
Do you have a photo from the top, please?
Forgot to say, that I think I have or had a Yamatoku piece with that mark. I am not a 100% certain, but they do like black and their pieces are very Chinese-looking.
@julia I think your correct to solve this origin problem we need to see the top construction. It just looks like a Chinese neck to me. Hope this solves the problem one other thing is I believe Chinese red lined just about everything in that period. And Japanese blue lined everything just a thought.
Thanks, I am leaning back towards chinese. The style of mark just seems odd and off centre, too. Either way, you got a lot of vase for $30.
Just for reference, I found a Yamatoku vase with a similar kind of mark. It is not identical and I have no idea if it means anything at all, let a,one the same, but here it is anyway. Not a great base picture.
https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/30973613-yamatoku-vase-porcelain-silver-japan-ca-1920-30
Thanks for the link. It’s a red mark but looks quite different in hand and style. Either way I know why many are listed as Chinese/Japanese it’s just safer that way. My wife hates Asian art but for some reason see won’t let me sell any of the blossom jars or vases. She saw this one on the table and said could you sit on this for awhile I’ll let you know when I don’t want it. Lol Her house her rules. It also stands out in a contemporary room. Here is a Japanese jar my wife claimed years back
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