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Hi I bought this at a estate sale and could really use some help identifying my piece, I was just drawn to it it’s so well carved. I’m not sure when it was made, or what type of material it is constructed from it is heavy. It is marked shown in pictures. Any help with this beauty would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
These are the pictures of the Asian carved vessel had to shrink them down sorry.
Is it a bamboo censer? The carving is pretty.
Hi Kathy,
Welcome to the forum. I am not much use on stone items but hopefully, someone will be able to help you identify this soon.
In the meantime, are there any scratches on it? Soapstone scratches easily, I hesitate to suggest you try it, but have a look to see if there are any in places likely to be in contact with other surfaces.
Julia
@Kathy Berben,
Firstly welcome to this great forum.
Are you absolutely sure this censer is stone? I ask because I can see although not clearly because the images blur when expanded small holes and bubbles/other.
If you take a hot needle it should not penetrate a natural stone but will burn resin.
Try it and please let us know the results.
Mark
@imperialfinegems Hi thank you, I did the needle test on the bottom of the foot and it did stick in when I did it, does this mean it’s resin? Thank you again
@kathy If the needle went in then it is certainly resin of some sort. Sometimes you can even smell burning plastic type of scent when the needle burns in. Hopefully you didn't pay too much for it to learn the lesson. I now carry a lighter and pin with me whenever I go to a sale in case I encounter such things because I've bought a few of these resin copies myself. Some of them are very convincing.
Yes, Kathy sounds like resin.
John, I am amazed you can get away with that, don't they mind? I wouldn't dare in case I got accused of damaging something! 😆
@julia I don't do it without permission. At any rate, they shouldn't mind that much because the only way it's going to do anything is if it is resin and then the value is low for such an item anyway and a small pin hole on the bottom won't matter much. Now, if it's a dealer and they vouch for the authenticity of the item then I might buy it without testing it there but I'm still testing it at home to double check. And then obviously at that point I would return it if I found it was resin. Lessons I have learned the hard way in the school of hard resin knocks.
I posted a seemingly gorgeous Amber coloured buddha on here, ages ago. It looked wonderful, high estimate for my pocket, but Mark gave me a load of things to look for when I handled it.
It was resin. Very disappointing but thankfully I found out before bidding. If I can find it, I will post it up again, if Mark doesn't mind.
@julia Good idea I'd love to see that earlier discussed info. By the way, going against my better judgement I just bought something this past week online, which is such a crapshoot, that I think might be an interesting soapstone/other stone carving but it's a total gamble because it could be resin and I won't know until it gets here and I put a pin to it. I cause myself such stress, but I just couldn't help myself because I like the looks of it. I'll know soon if it's a diamond in the rough or just another hard lesson learned. Maybe I'll share the experience with you all once I get it, however it works out. Fingers crossed!
And this would be another good topic to cover in our upcoming ZOOM meeting.
Hi Julia,
By all means post the former discussion. I can't remember it.
Hi Kathy,
Unfortunately your censer is resin as I suspected.
Hi Johnshoe,
If your looking at a Soapstone carving it is important to look at the base. If it's genuine you will see evidence of scratches because it is a very soft stone. Unfortunately some resin and plastic also scratch easily.
In the event that you can't use the pin test on ivory/other here a two simple tests that are not destructive. UV light will show a soft bluish glow on resin. Tap the piece on your teeth. You will quickly learn and feel the difference between the feeling of ivory/bone and resin. Give it a try!! You will be very surprised my friend.
Mark
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