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Topic starter 26/12/2024 5:29 am  

19" across. Found this recently. What is that above the tree, a thunderstorm? I would like to think they are witches with a cauldron, but more likely just scholars 😄. Although am not sure if they are men or women.  Thanks, Todd

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26/12/2024 6:16 am  

Hi Todd,

I think you are right, it looks like a storm!  How lovely!  It would be nice to think they were witches brewing it up but as you say, most likely scholars.

Still, I really like that cloud effect, very nicely done. 

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26/12/2024 6:46 am  

The cloud effect leaves room for the viewers imagination. 

The figures look like old women examining something and a child reading a text of sorts. 

Overall very well painted. 

Mark 

 


   
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26/12/2024 6:52 am  

I do believe this is just a cloud obscuring the moon ( must be a full moon bc the women can read at night without a artificial lighting source ) The wavy like lines around the cloud is moonlight reflected by the misty sky. A storm scene would be much more violent . I agree ...no witches!! but woman learning poems.

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Topic starter 26/12/2024 7:26 am  

Do you think it could be Krakatoa in 1883? It's a stretch, but the dating at least could potentially line up...

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26/12/2024 8:19 am  

@watership That's an interesting theory. It would be cool if it's true. Are there other examples of that event being depicted in Japanese art?  John


   
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Topic starter 26/12/2024 9:30 am  

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Hey John,

I did a quick search of exactly that...didn't come up with anything. Apparently The Scream, by Munch, is an example, that's what made me think of it. 

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Krakatoa is off the coast of West Java (Java Barat) between the islands of Java and Sumatra. You can see it from Carita Beach, West Java and pass by it on the ferry to Sumatra. The novel title was wrong, it is not East of Java, might have been able to distinguish the plume from Singapore and Malaysia, but as far as I know, not from China or Japan, made the sky gray at most.


   
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Topic starter 26/12/2024 11:24 am  

Hi Sharon,

Yes, agree with you. The Mt.Bandai eruption in 1888 is a much more likely scenario....if it is a depiction of an eruption. Krakatoa made the sky change colors as far a Europe, but a potential ash cloud depiction of Krakatoa doesn't make much sense for Japan. So, could be Bandai or just an eruption in general, symbolizing the random and catastrophic in life. Or it could be just a storm or moonlight through clouds. Who knows😄. 

take it with a grain of salt


   
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26/12/2024 11:55 am  

@watership In any case, a wonderful old charger, to me, the cloud formation is a good representation of an ash plume, but if a thunderstorm, it begs the question, why not get inside? That is one giant vase, which is another mystery, that's one entertaining charger. Congratulations!


   
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@watership I saw The Scream at the former Munch Museet in Oslo, it was stolen shortly after our visit (no connection) and later recovered, now in the controversial (as to style) new Munch Museet.


   
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