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Hi guys,
I recently bought this archaistic stone carving, and I couldn’t figure out its material or what it was modeled after. It is cool to the touch and pretty hard (it doesn’t scratch with a fingernail, it does with a nail). I don’t think it’s jade, but I’m not sure what other hardstone it could be.
Looks cool, Have you tried a UV light to see if there is any obvious polymer. What kind of sound does it make. If there is resin it will be very hard to know, but you could always get it tested.
That’s interesting. I’d be interested to learn the material. Mark(Imperialgems) may be able to tell you right off the bat, if he stops by.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Dear Jarret,
Nice interesting find. Looks quite large from the hand held photo. It has a certain sheen almost indecent glow maybe it is carved from some sort of shell. Hard to tell from photo's would you describe it as light or heavy for it's relative size. Looking forward to others opinion.
Cheers
Michael
It does have an irridescent quality. Maybe some sort of shell? Something similar to mother of pearl? This would account for it being translucent too?
Nic
Hi Jarrett,
Judging by the picture where said is placed in front of a lamp I would say your item is most likely fluorite or similar family. You will note that said has no fibrous look under a strong light. It does have a certain streak consistent with fluorite or other.
Size and weight have not been provided. So further identification is limited.
If it were genuine nephrite jade you would not be able to successfully perform the scratch test without undue pressure.
Fluorite has a hardness on the of 4 and subsequently can be scratched. Is commonly used as a jade substitute. In its original colour or dyed.
The brown markings or skin appears to be artificially added by acid or other means. This is added to give the item age or other.
Lastly the stylised carving is not known within the culture IMO therefore I submit it is modern.
One test you can perform is to dangle subject matter by a piece of string and gently tap it with either a known piece of jade or failing that a s/s spoon or other. Do not perform this with item clutched in your hand. It will not work effectively!
If genuine jade you will hear a high pitched pleasant sound. If fluorite or serpentine it will resonate a dull sound.
Mark
This is definitely a modern carving. It might be real nephrite jade (hardened steele can actually scratch some of the softer types of nephrite jade) but the russet color looks artificial, probably made with iron oxide. If it is flourite it should light up under UV-light, a phenomenon known in gemology as fluorescence and actually named after the mineral itself. If it dosen't show any fluorescence I think the best way to ID the mineral would be to make a density test; to find its specific gravity.
The stylised carving is actually known in Chinese culture and the correct Chinese term for it is 'gui' if I recall.
Here is another modern example that also seem to have a similar artificial staining:
http://bid.888auctions.com/lot/63965-91459-27517/chinese-green-archaic-jade-carved-gui-bi/
And some real antique archaistic examples:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21820/lot/8185/
https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/a-rare-yellow-jade-tablet-gui-4083503-details.aspx
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2011/arts-dasie/lot.111.html
This is the only real archaic example of a jade gui I could find online.
Thanks guys! I definitely believe it is 20th century, not old.
It makes a nice high pitched sound like a crystal glass. It also measures about 8.75 inches long by 3.25 inches wide. I forgot to weigh it, but I believe it weighs about 12 oz +or- 4 oz.
I think the fluorite guess sounds promising. I suppose it could also be poor quality nephrite jade with artificial aging. I'll have to do some more research.
Also, thank you Corey for the identification of the form! I'll have to buy a uv light to confirm its material.
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