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Dear masters and experts,
What do you think of this item? What century was it made? What is it made of? Is it worth anything? Thanks a bunch. luke
It looks like some kind of metal. Is it?
Luke, looking at the interior it looks like spelter and to my eye the patina looks applied, far to even. The green looks to be aged bronze but the interior doesn’t show the same patina. for it’s size does it feel light? Curious to hear what the smart folks have to say.
Hi Ronm, I did not touch nor hold this item so I do not have any clue as to its weight. The seller doesn't know much about it other than he inherited it from his granddad and it maybe made of brass or bronze.
I thought it looked a bit like pewter, or lead inside but it could be tin. Weren't things like metal coffee pots lined with tin?
It does look excessively and suspiciously green. It may be fine but I would be cautious.
I agree. The colour of the verdigris is wrong? It should have more of a turquoise hue, this appears more a lime colour? But this may be due to the photograph?
Nic
I can only give my amateur observations, as I know next to nothing about this type of ware. It does not look like oxidation to me either. As pointed out above, too uniform and the wrong color. Looks like the piece is painted green to me, but that is not to say its not old.
Todd
Here’s a pic of a bronze item which has what I believe is natural oxidation, or “verdigris, as Nic points out...new word for me.
take it with a grain of salt
Seeing as bronze is an alloy, I suppose the colour could be as a result of a variation in the alloy, causing it to age differently? This in itself may be a clue as to origin?
So maybe the authenticity and the quality of the alloy should be considered?
Nic
Thanks folks. I knew close to nothing about metal. Trust me, I am listening. Nic, you are making sense
I concur with Rohm's post. This has been artificially aged to look old!
If I were you, I would give it a miss
Mark
Hi Luke - I would concur with Ronm, Julia, NickDan, Todd and Mark, this looks artificially aged and rather poor quality - leave well alone!!
Stuart
Thank you very much for contributing, Julia, Ronm, Nic, Todd, Mark, and Stuart.
I recently did a little research myself specially about the dragons on the specimen to which no one has mentioned about here. If I am not mistaken they are Javanese dragons (See attached pictures of Naga Jawa, Indonesia). Notice that they wear a special crown and have no feet, unlike the Chinese ones, exactly like the one on the kendi. My gut feeling is that this item is genuine. I might be wrong, of course, but allow me first to give my reasoning: Firstly, this kendi is located in Java island, its own home; Secondly, to my eye, it was a fine specimen - fully handmade and beautifully done; Thirdly, who would want to fake something so obscure with uncertain hope of getting anything worthy in return from doing so. My guess is that it is an artifact from the Majapahit empire circa 13th-16th century. luke
Hi Luke,
You make a very good argument. The Javanese angle certainly gives more credibility to the piece, perhaps some of the experts will reconsider. My amateur two sense is that it looks very old. The color is certainly wrong for the oxidation we are used to seeing on ancient bronzes, but as Nic points out, it could a different alloy, producing a different effect. Or it could just be ancient green paint? ( not so sure about the validity of that idea, that was just my own thought).
Best, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Luke,
I think we’re at a bit of a disadvantage as regards analysing the design because it isn’t clear in the photographs. But I think your detective work could certainly lead you somewhere.
As Ronm points out, it could well be something like spelter, the main ‘ingredient’ of which would be zinc. Zinc would certainly explain the lighter, lime-coloured verdigris as opposed to bronze verdigris which is a rich aquamarine/turquoise?
As regards the faking of such items, I agree that it seems unlikely, but one must always consider the tourist trade? In places where labour and materials are quite cheap it is possible to produce fine things for seemingly little return.
As I said earlier, it is also possible that the colour of the photographs is misleading which is giving us a false impression of the ageing on this?
Good luck with your research!
Nic
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