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I picked up this chinese helmet today at an estate sale. I saw the detail and remember seeing similar items pulled from tombs in China. What do you guys think. I know its very old and very detailed. Most likely gilt bronze and some sort of green stone perhaps jade?
Interesting thing to come across at an estate sale. It seems to be more or less in the style of 2000 to 3000 year old Chinese ceremonial helmets. I would imagine this is a reproduction that they treated to make it look old, but let's see what others have to say about it. Did they have any other Asian antiques at the sale, and if so what were they?
I think it is probably modern, however very decorative and very cool. This just led me down the crazy and stunning rabbit hole of Chinese armor, jeez.... Now I want a suit of armor.
Out of curiosity is it a gilt carved nephrite helmet or inlaid?
Jeremy
Where was the estate sale? Could it be a movie prop?
@jbeer2121 I would love to wear that outfit to work one day, minus the sword. just roll in like it's a typical Monday and start going through my to do list of nonsense paperwork while my coworkers all whisper to each other "hey what's up with John?"
To follow up this this was found in New England so a ways for Hollywood, this defiantly isn't a prop with confidence as I did work in a industry that intersected with prop houses when I lived in LA and I've been in all of them (well 90%). It feels like its made out of stone and the detailing is to great for anything in the industry plus the size.
So this was found a 1950s mid century home in New Hampshire one of those really expensive ones that sits on cliff side ready to give. There was other Chinese items there the New England export rose medallion punch bowls and canton items. There more Japanese items than Chinese mostly Meiji era from what I can tell. They defiantly were collectors to some extent. I did find some similar items from tombs.
@birdchild might as well use the Id assistant service to see what Peter thinks. Who knows maybe you found a diamond in the rough. If so it would probably be worth a fortune. At any rate, it's worth the $12 to find out a bit more. If you do let us know what he says.
It needs better pictures and closeups of the green bronze disease and a closeup of the inside. I’m going to keep my opinion for now until closeups. Sorry but rich people own more fakes than I do this is from personal experience as an estate manager for some of the richest people in the world. I do have a good ideal about this piece just need confirmation from good photos. Oh before you get to far into photography put a magnet on it to rule out iron.
Here are some close ups on the interior. Did the magnet test it does not stick. Here are more detailed photos.
This looks like resin. But the closeup are still not clear enough. I am convinced though that this is a replica maybe for theater.
@birdchild Brian brings up an interesting possibility regarding resin. Have you hot pin tested the part that seems like stone?
See if this link works for you then scroll down.
https://ferrebeekeeper.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/chinese-helmets/
Here are some more photos to me it feels like some type of rock. Here are some close ups the last two photos show the best details. Anything besides sticking a pin into this to test
I did find this other piece that looks similar in construction with the rock like texture but, clearly isn't older than 19th century. I think the theory of theater or some other purpose is correct with this and my helmet.
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