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Hi, All.
So, the first piece I ever asked Peter about was a dragon and phoenix vase that I had found as a lamp. I de-lamped it and sent photos to Peter, who informed me that it was Guangxu, and even with the hole in the bottom, was worth 3 times what I paid for the lamp. Yay!
But I didn't ask him about the jade finial that came with the lamp--didn't think much of it as the time, but as I learned more about Chinese art and porcelain, I began to wonder if it was actually a good piece. Looking online, I see similar pieces that are 17th-18th century, that sell for thousands--much more than the vase! So I thought I would ask the experts...
Here it is. The finial is a jade figurine, that appears to be a small boy carrying a fruit (a pomegranate, I think). It is well carved, and pretty clean--only a slight russet area on one arm, and a tiny spot on the pomegranate. It has a few natural cracks in it, that are rather cleverly incorporated into the carving. One on the back, just under the edge of the boy's jacket, and one on the side, that follows the profile of a little cutout in the jacket. I really like the way that the cracks are included into the design...
There is also a small hole that has been drilled into the back of the piece at some later date, possibly to make it into a netsuke? Not sure why this was necessary, as there was already a smoothly carved space between the arm and the fruit on the other side.
The figurine was made into a finial by the simple expedient of carving a shallow groove about halfway around the lower foot, wrapping a piece of wire around it, and using the wire as an anchor for the gold-painted solder base. I took the base off, and you can see the groove. As I said, it goes about halfway around the foot. Very sad!
Note that the outdoor photos show the color a little better, the figure is pretty pale.
Is this a real 17th-18th century figurine? I am inclined to think it is. But I know they copied that style at later dates. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Charles
@Charles Bryan,
Hi Charles,
A very nice piece you have posted.
Firstly it's genuine khotan nephrite jade in my opinion. It's difficult at times to precisely date jade. In my opinion yours is from the 18/19th century. It's not earlier in my submission.
It has been drilled later to make it into a toggle (see below).
Mark
A sample of a 18/19th century white nephrite jade boy figure on stand that I own. Sorry the images are out of focus!
From my collection a late 19th century celedon white nephrite jade toggle depicting a chilong climbing bamboo with agarwood wood beads (this is why yours has been drilled later on).
Thanks, Mark! As always, great information. Now, if I could only learn to tell nephrite from bowenite!
@Charles Bryan,
Hi Charles,
Differentiating between jade and bowenite can be tricky.
Bowenite has a Mohs hardness of 5.5 and is a member of the serpentine group. It comes in light to darker green. It's often referred to as new jade.
When you scratch the suspect stone using a pen knife (not nails or hardened steel!) bowenite/serpentine and Soapstone will leave a white mark/line. This means the stone is softer than the metal instrument. Jade on the other hand is harder (Mohs) and will either not leave any Mark or will be black. This black line means the stone is harder than the pen knife.
However bowenite is very often mottled with white cloudy patches throughout and often translucent. The veining is often very dark. These characteristics are the tell-tale signs that the object is not jade. Also the luster is different. So if you ever see white cloudy translucent patches. It's not jade!!
Once you view and handle a large number of both jade and bowenite you will quickly be able to tell the difference between them by pictures only. If you have a genuine interest in collecting jade objects I can also recommend the following material.
Chinese Jade from the Neolithic to the Qing by Jessica Rawson.
Jade by Roger Kervene.
Here a few pictures to illustrate my point :
Mark
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