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Hi, All.
I found these this last weekend at an estate sale. I paid $800 for the four, which would be good, except that they all have chips. Despite that, I like them a lot. Looking online, these are generally listed a Qianlong, and I am wondering if that is true for all of them. They all have very similar bottoms, and the underglaze blue designs are all similar in terms of quality. But the figures, especially the faces, vary quite a bit. Comparing to my Qianlong vase, some of these look similar quality, but others lack any shading, or are somewhat crude (one gentleman looks like a Simpson character to me!). Are these all Qianlong, or could a couple of them be maybe a little younger, perhaps Jiaqing?
Also, I don't think it is worth the cost to get these professionally restored. I can fill in the chips with white epoxy putty, but I can't match the underglaze blue. Should I do that? Also, can anyone recommend a matching color for the brown dressing on the upper rim?
Your thoughts are welcome!
Thanks,
Charles
Number 1. This is the largest, 5.5 inches tall. I won't show the bottoms or insides on the others, as they all look pretty much identical. Flat or very slightly concave bottom. Tiny chip in upper rim, fritting on the bottom edge.
Number 2. A few chips, one large, on the upper rim. Numbers one and two look most like Qianlong faces to me. But this one has really crude flowers in the side panels.
Number 3. Grandpa Simpson! These faces seem pretty crude to me. Also, Look how crude the iron red decorations are (for instance, the fence). This one has one large chip on the upper rim.
Number 4. Very simple faces, no shading. I do like the human figures in all three panels. Several chips in upper rim.
I think they are all OK for the period.
Certainly the 2 you are sure of. The old chap on the third is slightly different but I have seen similar on earlier pieces. The differences could all be assigned to different times and painters. The fourth is a little different again, but they all share elements of design, bases and handle shapes with each other.
Hopefully someone else will confirm. I don't think the slightly different ones are English, but you never know! 😊
These all look of the period... a few chips should be expected for something that was used...all of my mugs have chips on them, and they're noware near 220 years old!
Your mugs made me think of earlier posts on some European scenes of the Qianlong period, and at the risk of beating a dead horse, I want to say: If something as utilitarian as a mug can have such nice rendering, it seems highly unlikely that a punch bowl would have questionable rendering.
You made a good buy!
Really nice tankards you have purchased. Really good buy!
Whilst I am not an expert on this period I think they are early 18th century. You would need to compare with known examples of similar design.
Mark
I think they are all Qianlong and good learning pieces for the different styles people were painted then. They are also very decorative! Don’t worry about rim chips, they can be expected. Badly repaired handles would be much worse.
Birgit
Thanks, All!
They really are a learning experience; the range of faces is pretty broad, and good to be know. I think it just shows that as Julia said, the similarities in shape, underglaze design, and the snow white porcelain, overweigh the variations in the styles of the figures in the overglaze enamels. With many, many different artists, there are bound to be variations in style...
These will look great in my cabinet!
Charles
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