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Topic starter 16/07/2021 11:39 pm  

I'm trying to assess the age of this pair based solely on these photos. Auction closes in a couple days, and I live too far to preview. May I get some opinions on them. I kind of like them, but the foot rim sure look like 20th c. knock offs to me. Photos are so bad. I've requested more but have yet to hear back. All help appreciated. JT

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17/07/2021 12:57 am  

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The foot is wrong, the top rim is wrong, the gold is modern, the painting looks awkward and of course… felt pads 🤮I bought a lot of stuff but not even once encountered them. Probably more widespread overseas? 

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17/07/2021 2:19 am  
Posted by: @loveli4236

I'm trying to assess the age of this pair based solely on these photos. Auction closes in a couple days, and I live too far to preview. May I get some opinions on them. I kind of like them, but the foot rim sure look like 20th c. knock offs to me. Photos are so bad. I've requested more but have yet to hear back. All help appreciated. JT

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Could it be one of these modern reproductions from Yong ( Tang Hall) 

 

China, mid 20th century. Mark: "Yong '?' Tang (hall) 

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17/07/2021 2:26 am  
Posted by: @loveli4236

I'm trying to assess the age of this pair based solely on these photos. Auction closes in a couple days, and I live too far to preview. May I get some opinions on them. I kind of like them, but the foot rim sure look like 20th c. knock offs to me. Photos are so bad. I've requested more but have yet to hear back. All help appreciated. JT

61626195788000
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Could it be one of these modern reproductions from Yong ( Tang Hall) 

 

China, mid 20th century. Mark: "Yong '?' Tang (hall) 

161025170134 Plates   Ref. P19A Armorial Chinese 1912

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 'Made by the Hall of Everlasting Victory' (Yong sheng tang zhi - 永勝堂製). 

'Made in the People's Republic of China', indicating late 20th century or subsequent manufacture.

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17/07/2021 2:34 am  

Or maybe french? Although I am not sure about the wide band  at the rims.


   
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17/07/2021 3:54 am  

Samson porcelain is very white. Impossible to see it on the badly lit pictures. It’s a possibility of course. But to me it looks rather like a 20th century Chinese copy/fake. 

Birgit


   
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17/07/2021 4:53 am  

Sorry, I was thinking more of the faience type like Qimper, Desvres, that kind of thing, but I would have expected the bands to be yellower.

I don't think this is fine enough to be Samson and they would probably have had a narrower gold band. 


   
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Topic starter 17/07/2021 8:02 am  

Good, We are all pretty much on the same page concerning them. Garbage. JT


   
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17/07/2021 12:45 pm  

@loveli4236

faience Qimper, Desvres is not all that bad and Gien will sell for a very good price,

 

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and as for the older handpainted antique faience can sell 10's of thousands and are very desirable. 

 

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This sold for 81,000

 

As for Yong ( Tang Hall) They are actually hand painted and some of their 18th century Chinese amorial plate reproductions are very well done and sell for at least £40. They are not fakes as  much as genuine repros and they usually have their backmark...but your vases do not have the backmark.  So are sellable. 

 

 

 


   
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17/07/2021 12:57 pm  

....I mispoke when i said 'so are sellable' I had meant tang hall ( yong) with their backmark are quite sellable. 


   
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17/07/2021 12:58 pm  

@short-dong Who is this Wiluam Henry, who so boldly usurps the royal arms of Her Brittainic Majesty, "be off to the tower cur." Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense, or as we say in Texas, Only Squares Wear Tamale Pants. I'm not sure what they could be, but not very convincing. Sharon


   
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@short-dong Who is this Wiluam Henry, who so boldly usurps the royal arms of Her Brittainic Majesty, "be off to the tower curr." Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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Hear Hear Long live King Richard

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17/07/2021 1:26 pm  

Jamie, not at all garbage. If it is french faience it can be very collectable. 😊 


   
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