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It puts an interesting light on the dispute over authenticity with the first vase. At Sotheby's Hong Kong I would expect this vase to rocket but we shall see.
Nice.
Dear thegoldentoad,
Thank you for posting this, very interesting. I wonder if it's a true pair with the 'Bainbridge' vase. The HK catalogue will no doubt tell us more once it's available.
Alan
No problem Alan, interesting news indeed. Chow notes in the video that they are slightly different. He thinks that the Qianlong emperor may have seen one of them first and said to make a pair for it at a slightly later date, accounting for the differences such as the mark and the border.
Best wishes.
It will be exciting to see what this sells for in the Autumn auction.
£43 million or $55 million was the last time this vase counter part sold.
Anyone that can guess the price within 2 million ..I will give the winner a Cloisonne Vase ? ?
Julia and Ronm ? ssh!
I think the Bainbridge vase eventually sold for just under 25 million GBP including fees... Still quite a lot of money ?
My guess is that this new vase will break the record... Great PR for Sotheby's
Less than one percent chance of being genuine ... Wow! But it's extremely interesting that the counterpart of the Bainbridge vase has now been discovered and that it can be tracked back to a catalogue description by one of the 20th century legendary dealers; Yamanaka Sadajiro, because there was several debates on the internet wheather the Bainbrigde vase was actually an Qianlong period example or a later copy. It actually looks very different from the similar reticulated rubey-red ground vase at the National Palace Museum (for some strange reason I can't find the image of that one online right now, but I know it's also depicted on this site somewhere - I would like to post it in this thread).
And also that there are recordings about nine such vases whose whereabouts will probably be accounted for in the Sotheby's catalogue, perhaps leaving a number of such vases out there still waiting to be discovered.
I also hope Sotheby's will publish analysis of the glazes used on this vase, because after studying images of the Bainbridge vase on the internet it seems to me as the yellow glaze might have some color-change/pleochroistic properties, and my guess is that it is based on sepia-ink.
In the origianal catalogue description of the Bainbridge vase there is reference to a bottle with a similar reticulation in the imperial collection, which is again similar to a qianlong marked reticulated bottle I own. I've been researching that one extensively to figure out if it could be an authentic Qianlong period example, not least because of a near perfect match of the enamels. It's not a modern fake though but a 19/20th century apocryphally marked copy or possibly the real thing. But with the "less than one percent of being genuine" statement I'll probably stick to a 19/20th century dating of that one ... A picture of that one plus a picture of the Bainbridge vase that shows the color-change and how the colors of the enamel compares to the enamels of my vase is attached below.
I also just came across another link with a possibly authentic Qianlong vase similar to the Bainbridge vase. The objects depicted on that site is from the 'FangMax Collection of Treasure Antiques'. A picture of that one also attached below.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1583976/000151712613000251/fangs1.htm
It looks authentic to me.
@Horatio: Which one? The vase I have or the one in the FangMax Collection of Treasure Antiques?
But anyway, it seems like I have misunderstood the thing with recordings of nine such vases. Nicolas says in the interview: "In 1743, Tang Ying presented it to the emperor nine vases of this type, very complex, reticulated pieces. You can imagine how many must have been broken in the process. The emperor, according to the court record, replied, ‘For those that comes in single one, please make one to match them.’ " He is talking about nine revolving openwork or reticulated vases of different design as it is also noted in an article from NPM on Qing dynasty yangcai porcelains where such vases are called 'the Work of the Gods' (wow!).
http://www.npm.gov.tw/exh97/porcelains/en_overview.html
In my opinion it's very likely that this vase will set a new record. If not for Chinese ceramics in general, then likely for Qing dynasty ceramics. The shape is similar to that of a Qianlong archaistic celadon vase that at its time made a new world record for Qing dynasty monochromes at $7.9 million.
And additionally another world record for Chinese ceramics was made by a Qianlong yancai double gourd vase at $32.4 million.
The vase I have is similar to a Qianlong revolving openwork double gourd vase with yancai enamels in the imperial collection (NPM).
https://theme.npm.edu.tw/exh102/qianlong/en/photo-b15.html
First outcast of the catalogues description is now available at the Alain R. Truong blog.
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2018/08/18/36637443.html
Hopefully Sotheby's will add a more extensive lot essay in the final catalogue. The interlocking cube pattern seen on the vase is closely related to the hexagonal tortoiseshell pattern mentioned in the article from NPM I posted. It is originally inspired from islamic art and architecture but is also well know in european art, perhaps most famous in the works of the German renaissance engraver Albrecht Dürer and the 20th century dutch engraver M. C. Escher. I'm afraid Sotheby's will miss on this fascinating art historical aspect of the decoration.
A link to pinterest with many variants of the pattern:
https://www.pinterest.dk/pin/839851030481784411/?lp=true
Hi there folks
look at this belter ? , I just seen reposted on gumtree
Seen it at first last week on a gumtree ad and the seller was asking for £5000, now reposted yesterday and asking for £10,000
Chinese Very Heavy reticulated double wall vase Stunningly detailed work i have had professional photo done so you can see in detail i can send further no end of more detailed photos on request , for some reason i have had quite some very interesting offers for my vase so i am trying here and now here open to offers best offer gets it, it weighs 16 inches tall and weighs 6-7 kilos, down load the image and go over the work on the vase with magnification and be amazed at this piece.There is another vase inside this one like a blue and white Chinese famous blue and whites i am not kidding you look through the open work and there it is unfortunately i cannot show this i am not a good photo guy , any viewing would have to be done at my small holiday place up north as the last time i showed my things i got broken into apart from that i am here till end of September viewers welcome only if serious buyers with serious offers any payment would have to be cash sorry no credit cheques or anything just cash payment. Small price in box is only to fill an amount i am waiting for serious offers. Text me only day or late its fine.. DUE TO THE MASSIVE INTEREST IN MY VASE I HAVE I HAVE CHANGED THE PRICE TO 10,000 POUNDS which is my legal prerogative and my chioce who i sell to due to an offer from Canada this is my final price.
The final catalogue description and note is now available at Sotheby's. Not as informative as I could have hoped for but still well worth a read.
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2018/the-yamanaka-reticulated-vase-hk0826.html
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