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What period. Old or new?
This is a vase currently on eBay. It's listed as circa 1900. It is 21cm. Currently at £34.
Any views or thoughts, old or a good copy?
Personally I think it's a modern copy from the later 20th century. Perhaps 1960's onwards. Or brand new!!
I did have a look for comparisons in my new book by Tommy Eklof 'dating chinese porcelain from facial features and adormants'.
I am only a newbie with this book. Just received it today. Based on his information and images it's my belief that it's a modern copy. Perhaps Birgit aka @shinigami can shed further thoughts.
Sorry Page 162 should be this image. I am having trouble deleting the former one.
Great that the book has finally arrived! The vase looks like a copy to me too. It has that slick 21st century style that I can’t really describe but know it when I see it. And there’s the pink handle that looks like a foreign body.
Thank you Birgit. Your opinion is very much appreciated. The book is fantastic. Tommy is a great guy to talk to. Have given him a boost via Instagram @ adamsasianart
@imperialfinegems If the vase is still up for sale, I'd say you should throw a bid at it. The piece has age as can be seen in the pink enamel that has crazed over time. That opaque pink was a leftover from the Qianlong, and generally by the the late 19th (Guangxu), it stopped being used, perhaps because it lost popularity, but I think it was because it is rather volatile... it always crackles, and many times it comes right off the porcelain.
Perhaps the photos are just not showing off the best features, but to me, the piece speaks Daoguang...even if it turns to be a bit later, a good buy if you can get it for a hundred dollars or so.
@greeno107 You may be right, though I’m not absolutely convinced. But you have seen a lot more stuff than I. This example from the book comes closest:
Crackled enamels can be found on brand new items too. In my opinion this is a copy, but to be sure it should be judged by better images.
But no doubt, if old, it has been painted by a child. All the details are off. The animals, paws, faces, hands, everything is off. The animals are really ridiculous. Just a single example, those bats with bee body.
@clayandbrush Point taken....the drawing is not to my taste, either. But, this is how many Daoguang pieces were rendered. Compare to this rather expensive, and in my opinion, poorly rendered cups sold by Sotheby's...
These cups are better than the described vase, but not by much, so in my opinion, the vase is well within the artistic quality
scope of the Daoguang.
Let me add....
I really dislike the handles, so I did a quick search for something similar. Compare to this Catawiki Daoguang example - the handles are remarkably close in style and rendering. My guess is that it is 19th c., but perhaps later than Daoguang.
It sold for £688.
to me the cups sold by Sotheby's are miles ahead from that vase, in terms of painting quality.
Just look at the face/beak of the heron, any child would do it better.
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