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Identical pieces in good condition are steadily selling for $10,000 at large auctions. And yet this drilled vase sold for $8600 on ebay. I think this is a very good example how attractive it might be for sellers to use ebay over christies/sothebys considering they are saving a ton on commission/premiums and won't have to wait 6 months before getting paid.
I can’t help but to me the vase looks modern. Curved bottom, a lot of unnecessary scratching there. Even the brass looks modern. The elephant mask looks strangely flat. Monochromes aren’t my field though so I would be glad to hear your opinions.
Birgit
I can't comment on the vase, but the brass is very shiny with no traces of polish which one might expect on an old fitting that has been polished.
Could an old (old-style?) fitting have been attached recently to this vase?
This was my vase/lamp. Peter Combs checked it out for me. The upper fitting looks older and has patina. The bottom rim does look newer. Super heavy and weights about 15lbs. The scratching on the bottom is less emphasized in person. It comes from being drilled. You can tell when you see it that it is a high quality piece.
I should also say that the winning bidder joinged Ebay on September 14th and has zero feedback, so let's see if he pays. 🙂
Your vase looks fine to me from what I can see comparing it to other examples sold. If you look carefully the fittings have some patina. I hope the highest bidder will pay but to be honest I think the bidding history looks a bit strange when it reached $8000 days before the auction ended. It is a common scheme used by a few chinese buyers to bid using a phony account hoping you will relist it later but this time with less interest and a lower price.
Regardless, $8000 is a VERY good price for a damaged guangxu vase of this type.
It went much higher than I expected...I cringed when I saw the winning bidder info though. I had my ebay account set up to NOT accept bids from zero feedback users. I'm not sure if they did away with that feature or if it's just been awhile since I've used ebay and the settings had disappeared somehow. You will likely see this re-listed. 🙂
I would also like to give you a quick advice. If the buyer is from Mainland china, only ship it with USPS Global Express (fedex) or directly with Fedex.
If the package gets in the hands of China post or EMS , you have no guarantee they will ever update the tracking information or get a delivery signature confirmation which would allow the buyer to abuse paypal buyer protection.
BTW, there is no feature that allow you to block buyers with 0 feedback. That's just the price of dealing with ebay.
Congratulations from me too, I hope the buyer will pay. If you relist it you could mention that it was appraised by Peter Combs. Or you could ask him to include it into his recommended items.
By the way if it’s unpaid and you offer it again why not just exclude China from the countries you ship to? Or just ship to Europe and North America? Ebay has a lot of little adjusting screws.
Birgit
@springmeier They must have removed that feature. It has been about 15 years since I set up an auction that excluded bidders and they must have done away with it completely. It was very nice because you never had to worry about new accounts with zero feedback.....if you didn't want to let them bid. Of course, I've been on Ebay since its inception and there's probably a lot of policy changes I missed over the years. I use it sparingly now.:)
@shinigami I will probably do that. I have shipped a couple of items to China with no issues but this one is a bit scary for me with the high price. The winning bidder is supposedly from the US but it might not be a legitimate account. Thinking about using the Second Chance Offer that eBay allows but I've never had anyone actually take the Second Chance Offer. 🙂
Hi GrossI001,
It's a very nice guangxu period vase. You achieve a really good price imo.
If the buyer does renege on the purchase I would recommend that you do not list it for about 2-3 months. Also take different/new pictures and change the wording of the listing.
That way viewers who were familiar with it before won't immediately recognize it as the same one. Just similar.
Mark
Does it really take 6 months for Christie's & Sotheby's to transfer the money to your account? I didn't know that. Definitely something to consider before selling through them.
It doesn't but it can take this long from the time you submit an item for consignment to the time you receive the money .
You mean for pieces that has not been paid for in time or what? I've heard that the salary they charge you for unsold lots should be pretty hefty but I guess it's just a matter of finding the lowest possible reserve price both the auctioneer and the owner can agree about?
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