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MY FIRST ATTEMPT AT JUN GLAZE PURCHASE A SMALLE TRIPOD CENSER MING MAYBE?
Hi everyone, hope you are all doing good today.. So brigette and I travelled back to Miami today to the original Miami beach antique show, where I took a lot of pictures for everyone, but want to post up my first Jun glazed piece purchase for examination by the senior's here or Jun specialists. The small tripod censer measures 2 x2 inches exactly and weighs 4.5 oz. The piece looks ok to me for the most part, I have not had a chane to examine the pictures close up yet but am hoping for the best. The price paid was under a grand. I'm sure one of these at Soethbys would get multiples more than I paid at the show. The dealer seemed honest and I saw him at the last show. Another good sign he significantly reduced the price on a large 36 inches pair of double gourd celadons from 15k to 3k for late 19th instead of Ming Lonquan celadons. That takes courage and is often painful in the wallet, he is honest. He also said he would take a return if not completely happy with the purchase. Some dealers down there had no idea what they were talking about and charging 5 and 10 times real world prices. For example a small 4 inch apple green crackle jar 5 grand, oh ok thank you but no thank you. I have one so far and paid just under 200 for late 19th turn of the century genuine. Ok without further ado here is the tripod censer. Show pictures coming next. If no go on the Jun glazed tripod I will retun it tommorow. Joe Carazola.
Hi ron, thank you very much for your learned opinion. You are the second knowledgeable person who has gone out on a limb and gave a thumbs up for my piece. The other person is an agent of the one of the big 3 auction houses, London will be calling also:) woohoo.
Here is the piece's kissing cousin, from what I see, they are both from the same close to the same era. Slightly different neck. Only a couple inches tall as well.
Nice one. Peter
hi peter and everone, Thank you for doing a little research on my small tripod censer peter. I found similar in a Song Ceramics by Mary Trager, also when I held my piece up to some of the pictures, I can take a couple later they are very close. Of course a picture from an older book and a live specimen will have some differences. Drum roll please.........................Jin dynasty 1115-1234 confirmed by another agent of one of the 3 major auction houses, called from London. This person wanted to know where we got it and so on and how did you know to buy it and on and on. The person valued the item between 3 and 6 thousand dollars, which would be their entry or lowest level . I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy. If you happen to see this post thank you sooooooooooo much for taking the time for us. Score one for our side:) Thanks again peter. See it can still happen, go to a show put your knowledge to the test and take a small chance and it paid off. Happy dance.
hi everyon, I wanted to thank ron again also for his opinion and input. I'm glad I have people like yourself and Peter on my side. There is a lot of money floating around in this business and the water can get muddy. I am a newish collector who had a small dream of owning such a piece and now I have one. Thank you God as well for leading me to it. I found it on the second day of the show and many people had passed it by thinking how could this piece possibly be real. Actually it was a bit hidden, its small:)
hi ron, I hope we become friends from here, I know you know some things in the field so it's good to have allies in the business. People we can turn to when in doubt or to confirm a suspicion on some ideas. I just called this a business and for some it is looked at that way and others not so much or at least they wont admit that much. I know of some purist collectors who really frown on the word sell regarding Chinese antiques but that is not the real world. Pieces are bought and sold daily and hourly and minute by minute. Having said that let me properly identify myself. I am a collector slash/dealer. Since I have been collecting I have not sold any of my nice pieces of which there may be a half dozen, genuine and quite valuable. The day may come when my financial situation changes or just want to take an extra 3 day vacation to a local destination and decide to put a nice genuine piece back on the market for the capital. Collecting is fun and I enjoy it. I like the history and the reading and learning about other cultures and so on. So I am not a purist I guess, dont want to be, to stuffy for me, I live on earth where things change daily and our perspectives and feelings about some things change over time also. I apologize for the diatribe but I want to be clear here on who I am. I call a horse a horse, truth to the death. I am sure most would be glad to have me as their friend or mate, (british). I spent time on another forum where I learned a great deal and am thankful for that and have no regrets and harbor no ill will. It was just not my long term home for discussing things about this BUSINESS. After all it's only a word but one thing I learned else where is to buy good pieces not nice pieces, quality and of value and of course genuine. It was a growing pain in my new career as collector of beautiful objects. I may even donate some pieces one day but I hear that takes and act of God also just to have someone accept them.. The Sung period censor is wrapped safely in bubble and in a box in my stand up safe and that is a bit sad that I cant see it everyday but because of its value and because of where I live it's a necessary precaution. Can you see some fellow showing up at a pawn shop with some clearly identified ceramics and pleading his case for money. I'm sure it's happened before, sadly. Ok then good talk and good day.
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