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What happened to the thread regarding the $3 thrift store bowl?
That's a very good question that I think deserves a clear explanation.
@bartholin Whatever the reason, it needs to be openly explained. It was one of the most interesting, educational, and even exciting threads we have seen, given the possibilities that were being explored. Either Mark, as moderator, or Peter himself, should clarify as soon as possible.
@johnshoe I agree, I enjoyed every new reply to that thread, and whenever one popped up I felt like I had to make popcorn. Despite that, I would understand balancing the need for privacy given the personal emails, names, and the possibility it was M&P and the latest update with Sotheby’s.
@bartholin I think all those reasons you mention are why it was so useful and informative, so to me it would be a bit disappointing if that was the rationale for removing it. But I will reserve judgement until I see the official explanation that is given.
My guess is all of the above plus a few more considerations. If that bowl turns out to be the valuable rarity that we all hope for Brian’s sake, then the prudent strategy is to conduct negotiations with the majors under a veil of privacy. The majors use the ‘sellers commission’ as a negotiating tool to attract the best items to their premiere auctions. I have seen the majors put their reputation behind a piece and then have negative commentary before the auction absolutely kill the piece.
@william I don't mind that it disappeared as long as Brian let's us know the final outcome. All the emails were a concern to me but I took that as a good sign for Brian that people were excited enough to send him their emails. So exciting.
@william Based on what you are saying then it could make sense from Sothebys and Peter's perspective to have Peter's assessment clarified on the thread, that is if Peter has reconsidered his earlier assessment. But if Peter stands by his assessment, or is unsure about it now, then perhaps he is just doing this as a professional courtesy for Sothebys given their possible interest in the piece until they make a decision about it. At any rate, I would like to think that ultimately Sothebys and Peter would have agreement on an item such as this, and if for some reason they didn't, then each party should be willing to stand by their position openly. So again, I come back to the same feeling that there should be a full explanation, and ideally the thread be returned if possible.
@sharonp Why would you be fine with useful threads disappearing without explanation? I don't understand that position, especially coming from someone who clearly gets so much value from this forum as you do. I think we need to have a higher standard of accountability than that.
@imperialfinegems Thank you for the clarification. Perhaps if something like this happens again a more timely explanation would avoid threads like this one needing to happen.
@johnshoe I love the forum but it is neither law or holy writ, accountability, give me a break. John, you missed your calling, the law (maybe). Removed at the request of the poster, no grand conspiracy here. Never lose your passion, it has been a boon to the forum and I appreciate you. Pax
@sharonp To be clear, Mark posted his explanation at the same time I posted my comment to you, so at the time I hit "add reply" no explanation had been given. I stand by the relevance of what I said. This forum would ultimately be worthless without a standard of consistency and accountability. That may sound silly to you, but I know for a fact that it is not, so I don't relate to it being made light of. This forum is what we make it. It can be a big frustrating joke or it can be something meaningful and fun. Little things add up, the end does not always justify the means, and the way we do things matters. So yes, I want to do my part to make this forum as good as it can be, and if I see something here that bothers me, I'm going to speak up. And that's how I live life. I would apply the same approach to anything. And for the record, I appreciate you as well.
Everyone
Let’s give Brian the courtesy of our silent support while he works through this process. I feel sure this story will be picked up again for discussion. It is going to go one of two ways; the bowl will be turned down by the majors or will end up in one of the auctions this year. We can all keep our eyes on the up coming New York, Hong Kong and London auctions. It would just be too delicious for words if Peter Combs features the piece in one of his U-tube videos.
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