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Topic starter 13/10/2021 9:15 am  

Just wanted to share this interesting and pretty vase, and even better, it came with the 1974 receipt!

A4C0EB48 E583 44D5 AB8F A23F83E461DE
699B34AB 1C94 466C B59C 1C0E3ADDD802
5637D675 CE8F 488E B185 D977029C6954
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So, I disagree with their assessment that the vase is Guangxu, but I understand the confusion.

The artist of this Republic period vase copied 18th c fengcai methods of applying thick opaque enamel to render the bird and flowers.

Furthermore, the artist ran the leaves and branches into the border, much the way Yongzheng imperial depictions (such as on the charger I sold).

Finally, the yellow ground scrolling lotus and bars pays homage to the Qianlong, so naturally the 6 character Qianlong mark makes good sense.

Had the porcelain been a bit thicker, I might consider it as possible Guangxu because the foot is unusually deep for a Tepublic piece.  However, the body is the more typical semi-eggshell of the Republic and the quality is quite refine, so I’m going with Reoublic.

 


   
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13/10/2021 10:11 am  

Very nice vase. Do you have a picture of the bottom? The pink color looks rather unusual to me as does the fat bird. It has some age and the scrolls are hand painted, not made with stamps. But I don’t know where to put it. 

Birgit


   
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13/10/2021 11:18 am  

I would also like to see the base, please.  I really like it, very attractive.

I thought the bats and that top area looked 19th c but not the flowers on the body.  The almost bare back may also suggest a later date.  Interesting.


   
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13/10/2021 11:26 am  

Hi,

It looks later than republic to me. The colors are muddy and the decoration are not done in any classical manner. 


   
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Topic starter 13/10/2021 6:50 pm  

Something must have been wrong with the photo file size. Here it is…

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Topic starter 13/10/2021 6:56 pm  

@springmeier 

the decoration are not done in any classical manner.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Bird and flower is as classical as it gets.

 


   
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13/10/2021 7:10 pm  

Looks PROC lines to dark for republic nothing is drawn smoothly mark is sloped. 


   
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Topic starter 13/10/2021 8:05 pm  

@lotusblack can you show me a PROC piece similar line work?

This gallery was well known/ honest dealers. In 1974, a PROC would be near new at that time.

Furthermore, I’ve never seen enamel work or this kind of foot on PROC pieces.

It is a rather unique vase, so I understand the confusion.

Koh Antiques website has an interesting article on the development of fengcai and the experimentation done during the Republic period with various fengcai enamel work.  These experimental pieces are extremely rare.

http://www.koh-antique.com/history/falang.htm

http://koh-antique.com/history/historyrepublican.htm

BTW, I did take the photo at night with low light, so perhaps that lends to the unusual appearance.


   
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13/10/2021 11:30 pm  

@greeno107 Thanks for the article.


   
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14/10/2021 1:18 am  

I don’t have another example either but could also see the vase as post 1950. 

Birgit


   
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14/10/2021 2:18 am  

The shape, the rear view, the potting would all make me think PROC, if that was all I knew or saw. However, the base and decoration don't seem quite right. They make me think earlier.


   
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Topic starter 14/10/2021 5:42 am  

Egg vases, sometimes just called ovoid vases or even sometimes lantern vases, are known from the Yongzheng to Republic. It’s a very famous Qing vase form.

https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/chinese-ceramics-works-art/famille-rose-vase-44/90533

The enamel work of all PROC examples I’ve seen are flat in texture, translucent, and do not blend colors.

I’ve also never seen semi eggshell potting with a deep foot on any PROC pieces.

But, if you can find a single similar vase, I’m happy to eat my words.

This vase is quite rare. That does not mean it’s a great example of Republic work, but from a historical point, it’s a great example of how Republic artists were looking for ways to recreate Qing masterpieces.


   
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14/10/2021 7:31 am  

I wasn't implying the form was specific to PROC, just that those three things taken together, would have made PROC my first thought. Since I feel the decoration looks older, it could simply show development towards a PROC look.

When did that base border appear? Or become popular?


   
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Topic starter 14/10/2021 7:47 am  

@julia Borders like this originated in the Qianlong, but this particular border is found late Qing to early Republic.

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-5554511


   
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14/10/2021 7:58 am  

Thanks, Tim, but aren't those borders. different?  However, late Qing to early republic is what I was thinking as I have a jar with it on which I think it around that period.   


   
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