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Topic starter 01/05/2022 7:51 pm  

Hi Everyone,

Hope you don't mind me sharing about an antique that's not Asian.

Saturday I bought a bit of a pig in a poke in the form of a banjo clock with no photos of back or interior (it was offered along with a Victorian mantle clock frame); no one was bidding and I impulsvely did, so I got it for $100 (plus a whole lot more for shipping!).

It seems to have a 20th century face although the body seems old - or is it purposefully stressed and coated to give it an aged patina? I've read that there are a LOT of fake antique banjo clocks out there. The seller didn't say if it worked or not; I'm hoping there's a clock body in that box! I don't know enough about antique clocks to tell, and maybe one can't just from the facade. It was a bit of a stupid gamble on my part, I know.

Obviously I'll know more when it arrives. 

Your thoughts?

Warm regards,

Steve

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02/05/2022 6:56 am  

I also buy non Asian things when I'm out looking when something catches my eye. Last week I bought a big folk art wooden bust of a mother cradling a child. It's carved out of one piece of wood. For $60 how could I resist? Good luck with your clock. 


   
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02/05/2022 8:35 am  

It looks to me that you have a 20th century version of a banjo clock.  I will send some pictures later of my early 19th century example for comparison.


   
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Topic starter 02/05/2022 10:19 am  

@william Does it have a painted-glass door or doors? They often do. 

@johnshoe Yes, $60 is very good if you like it. I realize in retrospect that since no one else had bid on the clock I could have started with $50 and probably gotten it but the prompt button starts at $100. Live and learn!


   
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02/05/2022 10:48 am  

@steve With that crackled bubbled up finish, like it was near a heat source or in a fire, it will be interesting to see the real thing, maybe there will be a maker's mark somewhere, maybe on the movement if it has one. You will be able to see if it has an enamel face or paper.  Maybe it is part of colonial revival made popular by Wallace Nutting in first quarter of 20th. The folk looking painting, like rose maling, piece may have been gussied up by owner, I did some of that in the seventies. It will be like a surprise bag seeing what you get. Bonne Chance, Sharon


   
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@steve Here's my $60 folk art piece:

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Topic starter 02/05/2022 11:30 am  

@johnshoe The compassion is communicated effectively. Very evocative. 


   
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02/05/2022 12:32 pm  

@steve I looked at Ansonia and Wallace Nutting examples without finding one exactly like it, with luck maybe it will be stamped on backboard, somewhere in Conn. and in this case not China or Japan.


   
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02/05/2022 12:37 pm  

@steve 

Here are some photos of my banjo clock (c. 1820s).

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Topic starter 02/05/2022 3:13 pm  

@william Very nice, William! I know most have painted glass doors. Is that an American eagle I see?


   
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Topic starter 02/05/2022 6:10 pm  

Might it be a Gilbert clock? There's on on Ebay with a very similar case and deocration, except with a marked face.

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Topic starter 02/05/2022 8:19 pm  

Side note: at this auction there was a Coalport porcelain cup and saucer of a Rococo style that looked Edwardian but because the "Coalport" stamp on the bottom said "1750" the auction house said it was 18th c. Guess how much it went for? $1200. Unless I'm missing something, someone thought they were buying an 18th c. cup and saucer. Ouch. 


   
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02/05/2022 10:27 pm  

@steve 

Yes, a rather typical design for these clocks.  The clock dealer told me this clock had undergone some restorations.  The throat glass piece is also a typical design motif, but I have always wondered if it actually belongs with the other reverse painted glass piece.  It’s interesting that a cottage industry grew up around this glass painting technique which was frequently done by young women.


   
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02/05/2022 11:17 pm  

@steve Looks a match, so a Conneticutt clock.


   
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Topic starter 03/05/2022 11:29 am  

@william Do you run it? How loud is the ticking?


   
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