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Yesterday when I was picking up the little jade cup I noticed that in the mm following day's auction was a couple of monochrome vases. So I thought may as well have a look.
The first one I looked at was a later copy so I quickly moved on.
The other one was imo and after carefully examining it a genuine example. It's a celadon HU vase and has a undergazed blue guangxu mark and is of the period. It has a nicely fitted stand and measures just over 30cm.
I was the final winner today.
Mark
A good find, very nice, especially with the fitting stand.
Birgit
What a lovely vase. Congratulations!
I wonder why the dressing on the foot was scraped off.
Probably from the stand. Peter has often mentioned that the guangxu ones often look like this scrapped off look.
I see both with this blackish and without.
Beautiful vase Mark, very nice find. Congratulations.
This “guan’er vase” is truly beautiful! As for the dark color on the base rim, I believe it is a layer of brown protective slip that the craftsmen intentionally applied to protect the foot when it was made. Over time, it has gradually worn away. This is a normal trace of age, and I really like it!
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Thank you Tony.
I haven't heard of that before. Very interesting.
Was this technique only used towards the end of the 19th?
I ask because Peter has mentioned this before with the blackened/darkest foot rims but only from the later Qing period. But he did not elaborate as to why it was so.
Normally I keep away from monochrome vases but I really liked this one especially since it had it's original or soon after wooden stand. In addition the glaze isn't shiny and there are signs of soft wear.
I often have seen copies but they have all had a very clean foot.
Mark
Hi Tony,
I tried to add something to my last post but I believe that the internet is in some type of issues atm. Apparently worldwide too.
The vase originally had two stickers. One was removed during the auction process but still had it when it was originally photographed. The other is still there.
I assume that these are old stock or inventory stickers from the 20th Century.
Mark
Hello, I am very pleased to share what I know on this topic.
First, we should identify what the black substance on the base actually is. The answer is Chinese natural lacquer (dàqī 大漆), not modern synthetic black paint. Once cured, this traditional lacquer naturally appears as a deep black layer.
Second, we need to understand when this practice of applying lacquer to the bases of porcelain vessels first emerged. The technique appears during the late Tongzhi period and the early Guangxu period of the Qing dynasty.
Finally, let us consider the historical reasons behind the introduction of this practice. From November 1855 to April 1856, Taiping forces captured and burned the Imperial Kiln Factory at Jingdezhen (which had produced porcelain exclusively for the court). Many craftsmen were killed or wounded; others fled and went into hiding. After the Taiping forces were suppressed, production resumed in the 7th year of the Tongzhi reign (1868). However, because a large portion of the skilled workforce had either been killed or scattered during the turmoil, the quality of the porcelain produced after the restoration was significantly inferior.
To conceal various flaws and shortcomings, the decision was made to apply natural lacquer to the footrims and bases. This technique of using lacquer to mask the bases is most commonly found on wares with yaobian glaze, faux Ge glaze, and faux Guan glaze.
Additionally, there is a theory circulating among some collectors in China claiming that the black lacquer was applied to prevent porcelain from scratching imperial furniture. I do not find this explanation convincing.
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I’m in Europe and have been unable to access the website, so I’m only able to reply now. I’m sorry.
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Hello, I am concerned that I may not have explained this point clearly. I would like to emphasize that the presence of black lacquer on the footrim does not automatically indicate that a piece is imperial ware (guan yao). Folk kilns also produced wares with black lacquer applied to the footrim.
I am providing several photographs as examples—these are all folk-kiln products, yet their circular footrims also bear black lacquer.
I am worried that my earlier remarks might have misled some readers, so I want to clarify this point explicitly.
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