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I watched Peter’s video about foot rims, still not quite sure about this two, please let me know what you see and why? Thanks in advance!!!!!
I am not a big fan of judging only on foot rims, but here is what I see:
Photos 1 and 2, not sure...looks like a 19th c. piece. The unglazed portion of the foot rim is deeply inset, so most of these pieces seem to be 19th c. in my experience.
Photo 3 and 4 is Kangxi. The past looks pure white with 'pigs hair' texture. But, I'm cheating as I can see the 'cracked ice' design in the prunus decor on the sides of the vase that are clearly Kangxi.
🤣 🤣 🤣 Wasn't that sticker on the back that says Kangxi 1662 a factor in your decision.
I was always told that the sugar like base rim usually indicates 20th century and you want to be looking at a good oatmeal base rim. Then again the base rim will be scratched and damaged over time and when cleaned will look white and the dints and chips might make it appear crystal like sugar. Like a good maths problem, the more variables you can find to solve the better.
As the one with the Kangxi sticker is a prunus then I would hold my opinion as the Prunus on the market are more usually 19th century. That is a variable I input into my math factor regardless of sticker.
🤗 Hi Everyone. I was away doing a Film course.
1. Not sure if this ever proved to be an exact science but the ink strokes on the typeface ( reign marks) if they are smooth it was meant to be good, but if the stroke leave a hollow line ( i,e the ink has pronounced depth on either side of the line.)
Here is a picture of just that hollow ink pattern.
I got this from Christies and they date this to Qianlong so I guess that theory is far from perfect.
Welcome back Short Dong,
Long time.
Mark
Hi Yin -
As with Greeno, difficult to make any firm comments without seeing the overall pieces but, it is my understanding, that a four-character Kangxi mark is indicative of a 19thC, or later date, and is unseen on authentic period wares ...
The finishing of the footrim and base tone glaze would also indicate a later attribution, but this could be due to the image lighting ...
Stuart
Lovely to have you back Short Dong, I often wondered where you were! Hope the course was good.
I would also prefer to see all the piece, but I agree the second one looks like a 19th c base - and at first glance it does look as though the sticker is covering some of the mark, at least until one looks closely at the characters. Maybe it isn't quite centered? Or it is an illusion due to the angle.
I am not sure about the first one. I would have to see the rest.
The first one looks late 19th century to me but I have doubts about the second one. The bottom doesn’t convince me and the sticker is just stupid. Who would be able to date the vase to a certain year? And it’s not the beginning of the Kangxi year either, that was 1661. The sticker looks like a fake and makes me think the vase is too.
Welcome back Short Dong 👋🏻
Yin, are the vases in your possession?
Birgit
Sorry I meant to say Kangxi reign.
Birgit
@yinchris The vase with the prunus blossom and the reserves is clearly not Kangxi . I would say late 19th to early 20th century.
The covered vase is a bit tricky. The faces of the figures look like Kangxi faces. But the overall appearance doesn't convince me.
Chris
@greeno107. It's the sloppy decoration. A Kangxi vase would be of a much better (precise) painting quality. Look at the pattern near the foot ring. How badly it is drawn. The "cracked ice" background is a typical Kangxi revival background with no emphasis on the "cracks" of the ice. The whole piece is too glossy. And the foot is not a Kangxi foot. So for me everything on this vase is wrong for Kangxi.
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