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So, while my prospect Ming yellow ground magnolia plate turned out to be a commemorative replica, the local antique shop near the estate sale delivered a pair of small huanghuali display shelves and these two lovely blue and white porcelain pieces.
The paper label on the porcelain round box (which I removed for the photo) has 1960-70's typing and states the box is Kangxi.
The quality seems correct, but the unglazed rim is quite oxidized. Could be external contaminants, but it makes me wonder if there are any examples of these Romance of the Western Chamber scenes that predates Kangxi.
The interesting shaped small vase had no label describing the age, but Kangxi or slightly earlier looks correct. I have not seen the irregular application of slip to the foot on Kangxi, so I was thinking it could be slightly earlier.
Thoughts?
@shinigami Thanks! I'm not sure what to think of the small vase, but it is potted in an early style and the blues are really rich. I found this example of kangxi vase sold by Chrsitie's that I think shares a similar style of rendering, but with bamboo. Look at the way the leaves are rendered on the shoulder of the Christie's vase...they look quite similar to mine.
https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-a-blue-and-white-anhua-decorated-bird-and-6160296/?
I really like your vase but the flowers seemed a little unusual for Kangxi, at least to me. Is it a miniature vase? These might look different than larger ones. Let’s hear the opinions of more experienced people than me.
Birgit
I am not one of the more experienced and I am not sure either. To be honest, when I first saw it, I felt it looked 20th c Japanese, but then I realised it was a miniature and I do find Kangxi miniatures difficult and I find comparisons with full-size items don't help me. I genuinely find them so tricky. I can say that I share Birgit's doubts about the flowers.
However, could they both be Qianlong? The figures on the box look to be painted more that way eg the angle of the ladies heads, the man's face and the use of the space?
What price were paid for these if I may kind ask?
$200 for the round box and $85 for the vase. The paper label on the box, which I date to around 1960-70's, has a price of $350. No label on the vase, but for $85 I like the overall shape, clean white porcelain, and dark purple blue cobalt.
Neither the vase nor the box are perfect - cracks in the box and a 2 chips in the mouth of the vase / one small one on the foot rim. But, I couldn't just leave them for someone else to buy.
The whole trip including the items I bought ran me about $1500 (gas, food, lodging, and these two items plus the pair of huanghuali miniature display cabinets, and some odd and end non-antiques).
@avatar Forgot to hit 'reply'...answer to your question has been posted.
I see. Hopefully the items you bought will finance your trip. I would probably have bought them too. Hate coming home empty-handed ...
Hi greeno107,
Despite the damage a couple of very nice pieces you have procured in your travels.
The paste box is on my opinion Kangxi period.
The miniature vase is very unusual. Almost sort of stylised on a Korean aspect. Could be Kangxi or a later revival.
Would love to view the Huanghuali pieces you bought if you are so inclined to post.
Mark
@imperialfinegems I will post later this week. I'm celebrating my daughter's 27th birthday this weekend.
@avatar Ii think the HH stands will cover the expenses and then some. The box is a keeper, but the vase, once I can nail down it's age, I'll likely sell.
These two porcelains were among a group of pretty good looking minyao miniature vessels...they all looked to be Ming or perhaps Yuan.
Have you found another box with similar decorations from a reputable source? To me, genuine kangxi blue and white painting with figural scenes should rather look like this:
The lines are more defined and the style is different. The figures on your box look over-stylized. I am not convinced it is kangxi.
@springmeier No, I haven't found any comparable pieces... your Sotheby's example is the first. I think you are right, that their are some differences in the rendering.
The Kangxi example seems a bit less refined than mine, the foot and mark on Sotheby's looks very much in the typical Kangxi style, and the paste is very white... no iron oxide.
My box has a wide foot rim with a thin edges, no mark or empty double ring, and the paste appears to have iron as the unglazed inner lips of the top and bottom are burnt orange (which could be an unrelated contaminant from how it might have been used at some point). Now, it doesn't have the roughness of a 19th c. example, and given the extreme wear, I was thinking slightly earlier than Kangxi. Shunzhi?
I found this example sold by Christie's. I see similarities in the fine detail of the figures, but I also see similarities in the rendering of the dark blue leaves in my miniature vase.
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-5872050
I never researched Shunzhi...so, I'm quite literally guessing.
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