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Good Day Mark, Hope all is well with you and yours. I got a question for you. Is there any value in 19th Century Natural Burmese Jade carvings that are extensively damaged? This lovely peacock turned up in an old basement clean out. I don't really know what to do with it due to the condition. I know it is genuine antique burmese jade. Its stand is worth what I paid for the piece of jade so whatever is whatever. But I would really like to learn a little about buying antique jade and its intrinsic value. Is it mostly in its artistic representation? Or is it in the rarity of the gem, a combination of both, and which is greater. I believe these questions are right up your alley kind sir.
Here are a few pics. Hard for me to upload photos (size always too big). Thanks in advance. Sincerely, JT aka loveli3246
Hi Jamie,
Well firstly you are absolutely correct. Your carving is genuine jadeite jade. The stone is opaque and is a mottled green. Difficult to determine the age by way of your images. I surmise its 19/20th century. Overall your carving is of average quality with average carving style/master. Moss in snow jadeite was very popular during the guangxu period right through to the early part of the republican period. So 1890-1930.
It's impressive looking I must write. Are the two legs on the bird still there or not? I can only see a partial one and of course the remains of the birds feet on the other. What is the third one to the bottom left?
As a general rule high quality jadeite jade is rarely carved into figures. It's normally in either cabachon stones disc's or round beads. The most sought after is known as imperial jade. That's a bright emerald green of high intensity in colour with little or no discoloration such as clear or black inclusions. It's highly translucent. Only found in Myanmar (Burma).
When it comes to the value of carvings its my opinion that it's a combination of both colour and carving style. They both go hand in hand. Perhaps leaning more to the quality of the carving and of course the age. The golden period of high quality carvings was from the Qianlong period.
Good to high quality jadeite carvingd are never bad or inferior carvings like you sometimes see on low quality nephrite jade. Only the master carver would be allowed to carve the image. Lower grade would be carved by apprentices etc. So if you see what looks like high quality jadeite that's badly/poorly carved its a good sign that it is fake/other.
It's difficult if not impossible to tell you everything in a few posts. A couple of good references are:
Jade by Roger Keverne
Chinese jade from the neothlic to the Qing by Jessica Rawson.
The later book is used by museums, auction houses such as sotheby's and high end dealers. Very informative and useful reference book. Hard to get but still available on eBay from time to time.
Getting back to your carving. As it appears that the main body is without damage its possible that you could do either a repair or if that is not possible then the body would have to incorporated into a new base. The former is more desirable in my opinion because you have a beautiful base. Unfortunately I am not a carver so my thoughts have little value or no value with respect to carving. A good carver will figure something out. Maybe even have silver legs incorporated into the carving would look spectacular in my limited capacity as a thought. What do you think?
Extensively damaged carvings that are of good or better quality jadeite can either be repaired or made into something else. But keeping with the main theme. The cost would be worth it. Use of glues or enhanced material will always deflect from the value. But sometimes that's all that can be used sometimes. It's very subjective. And each case is different.
If the jade is of low quality then it's not worth repairing in my submission.
I hope this helps you out. If you need further help or anything either online or off just let me know.
Mark
Thanks Mark, Greatly appreciated. The two pieces are all that is here. I am the one who disassembled the old restoration. I could not tell the extent. It was an old putty restoration. That was when the screw and shim support were added to base. Sterling mounts are not a bad idea at all. What is the darn thing worth? Weighs over 450 grams. I'm pretty sure eBay is not the way to go as far as selling unless buy it now.
Hi Jamie,
As it stands (or doesn't in this case) your carving would have little value. The buyer would have to do repairs etc.
In a ideal world if it was perfect it would be valued at about $2500.
Being damaged and sold as is would have a value of about $500. If you repaired it by way of glue and other like bamboo or other. Then perhaps $1200-1600.
So if I were you I would have it repaired with resin and other like silver or bamboo legs. But you would have to find someone who knows what they are doing and will do it for a good price.
Can you please show us the stand?
Mark
Any idea on the type of wood? A little light to be Rosewood I think.
Hi Jamie,
Stand is consistent with early 20th century. Republican period. So carving and stand look early republic period. If you fixed it up and wanted to offer it for sale then 19/20th, early 20th century would be ok
Not sure what the stand is made from. I also don't think it's Rosewood. Perhaps Brettm aka Michael or greeno107 could be of assistance.
It's a nice carving but one can see how easily it would get damaged. Should be a larger and heavier stand given the size and weight. I also have a carving with a light stand.
Mark
Thanks Mark, Your knowledge is a blessing to me. The peacock was a good pic for under 100 I do suppose.
By the way,
I picked this little guy up today. What are your thoughts concerning quality? I think it dates to the 30s or 40s, maybe a little earlier. I'm sure you are familiar with the export China back mark. I thought it was well carved with a good color and water. Not 100% sure on the retail value. JT
One and the same. I had to have it. JT
Hi Jamie,
Nice looking jade box. 😁
It's highly probable to be nephrite jade but you would need to perform some tests to confirm that it's not serpentine. The only issues are the white patches/spots. They are indicative of serpentine but are seen on jades.
It's a reasonable good moss green in colour. Nicely carved with what appears to be coral feet. Is the gilt area metal?
It's a tribute piece to a much earlier Qianlong piece in my opinion. Probable date of mid 20th century. So depending on the following information could be 1920-1960.
Take a metal ruler and place it on the flat area's. Is it perfectly flat or is it ever so slightly out? Does the interior show evidence of modern tooling?
If unsure you can post high quality pictures of the corners and flat areas both head on and on angles. I can then offer you my thoughts.
What's the size and weight please?
What does EBTH mean?
Mark
Thank you Jeremy.
Mark
Hello All,
Can't I.D. the timber of the stand in the first post maybe a photo of the base rather than just the sides may assist. Like that Jade box any chance the base maybe gold ?
Michael
@jbeer2121 Yes, I checked it out yesterday, thank you, seems to be a lot of Hermes scarves for sale, oh the eighties, horse bit heaven.
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