@sharonp
Currently going through the same situation with an old Frederick Cooper lamp (the American designer out of Chicago who ruined *"modified" a fair amount of antique vases for a time, if my memory serves correctly at least)

Was listed locally with some other designer lamps of the same premise, and the one in question I almost had my heart jump out of my chest due to thinking it was Edo period Kakiemon, as it certainly matched the style of patterning and painting.. tho upon closer look and discussion with some others (especially thanks to @imperialfinegems) - I think out of most I asked Mark seems to be the closest upon further inspection.. the figural elements are the dead giveaway; it is not Japanese. Suggested Korean or Chinese, and that seems more logical to me.

My personal conspiracy theory (says the chap who can't differentiate a stork from a swan 🤣) is that it might be a European copy - as they were especially common amongst early German porcelain factories like Meissen, as well as other places in central Europe (France, Holland, ect) in the 18th century. Unfortunately I do not study pieces much beyond my means, and Chinese pieces of that period are completely unfamiliar with me - despite it sharing some Fam Verte elements, the red faces are puzzling me. For $100, I think it will be a lovely decor piece either way.. 
If anybody with export-ware knowledge during that timeframe of the golden age would chime in, I would be insanely grateful. 

Might I ask what you are looking at that sparked the question?@sharonp I too have always wondered about a piece I cannot find..

the first three are the lamp vase, and the style of painting and detailing is what made me think Kakiemon..
middle one is I believe a dutch export plate from 1750 according to the source
and the last, of course, is one of the rare and famous Kakiemon that exceeded well past its estimate at Sotheby's a while back

Thanks for reading my essay/biography - hope all is well with everybody this week and their collection hunting..
Regards,
-JRN 

I too would be grateful, but I have purchased European stuff without marks, because I thought in a just world they should be from Asia.  Those faces do not look that red to me.  I have a garden bench where everyone has a farmers tan like Peter talked about in a recent video.  This afternoon I have been looking at the Christie's Joseph collection catalogue from the posted materials on Bidamount, WOW, as they say on Antiques Roadshow.  I also do not buy anything expensive and I know that Peter said that you are not likely to stumble on to anything good in an out of the way shop, because the good stuff is in a collection, but the hunt is the thing that is fun.  Hope springs eternal and that true first could be gathering dust on a bookshelf and a good pot or two could theoretically be in an old, dusty curiosity shop.  I took a book published early in the last century on  Florida fauna and flora on vacation to Sarasota and traded for a first of Rosemary's Baby, because I loved Levin.  The owner was on the horn to a collector before I had exited the shop. I am having a sweet meat dish evaluated and I think it may be a marriage by a shop owner in one of those shops barely above the Sandford and Son junk shop category.  I await the verdict.  I hope you receive a reply from one of our learned members.  I enjoyed seeing your examples.

P. S. I hit the wrong button and ended up with italics.  I am cold sober, have a good evening ot afternoon.  Be well.

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P. S. I hit the wrong button and ended up with italics.  I am cold sober, have a good evening ot afternoon.  Be well.

🤣 happens to the best of us.. I don't know why mine was bold for half of a paragraph.

Same to you, be blessed! I hope everything pans out for your quest, and I do so very much agree... the "hunt" is what makes it so worthwhile and satisfying when you do find something (and usually for cheap).. 
Keep me updated with what you find out.. I have a large 17" transferware Ironstone bowl that just yells Ashworth Bros or unmarked Masons Ironstone China... it's been my backup research for when I need a break from the vases haha.

Hopefully we can fins what we're looking for, 
Best regards,
-JRN 

Well, ,I did find something very similar and it's not looking good for my guy.  He may be going away for a very long time, especially since I have him on a nice stand.  He may have to give up the stand.  I love my Ashworth, he is a lovely yellow and blue on white ground and it is a square shape, so I suppose he is for cake.  He is wading in water, so he is either a heron or an egret, but I have never seen a yellow and blue wading bird. I have painted a very French blue rooster on a yellow ground, he has flown the coop.  I also see that you meant red outline faces instead of black outlined faces, so no farm tan on your guys like my garden seat.  Lots to learn, which I am very much enjoying.  Be well and one day soon, it will be back to the chase.  I have never fox hunted but I do love the Noritake Ireland pattern.

@sharonp 

I had no clue you were a fan of Noritake or Ironstone/Ashworth!! 

I actually have an "uncommon" Masons Ironstone piece from before when he died and Ashworth Bros bought out the Ironstone China franchise. It's only been seen by a handful of people since after the 1950s, as that's when the Ironstone collectors started cataloguing and they had never seen it when I contacted the head cataloguer. Part of me loves the pride of having it, (It's my two fav styles - Imari mixed with Famille Verte) but part of me wants to find a collector who will cherish it more than I... I have a foo dog vase to save up for next time I come across one haha

See, can't make up my mind. It's too large to be a traditional wash basin (17") but the pattern heavily favours the Masons (later Ashworth's too) "Vase and Fence" pattern

Not too sure, they commonly weren't marked in the early days nut this one looks older than the early 1800s imo.. 
Still love it!

Good Hunting!  I collected transferware, I bought an Imari Doban bowl supposed to be c.1880 and sea salvage, later ships also sank.  The colors go well with Noritke Ireland.  I have some Copeland Spode Red Tower, that I bought from a jewelry store that was going to stop selling it, so a good deal.  I had to buy a few Spode Red Tower place settings to finish off the set and I had to pay retail, which pains me greatly as I have quite a bit of Scot ancestry.   A hilarious book is Richard Russo's Straight Man, about the treacherous shoals of the academic life.  I'm going to finish it tonight.  It was a cheap price on Amazon for the Kindle, but soon I will be hitting the estate sale trail.  Biggest coups over the many years, a perfect 1949 true first in beautiful jacket of Death of a Salesman, a true first of Elmer Gantry with all the necessary points of issue, A first of For Whom The Bell Tolls, a second state jacket with the photographer's name, but still who buys that for five dollars today.  Book collecting is my true joy.  The only book that was from Sotheby was an art book from the estate of Jacqueline kennedy Onassis.  I have a White House Photo that I received from her, probably from the office of Tish Baldridge when I was in seventh grade and wrote to Mrs. Kennedy and when she died I wanted something connected to her.  The book will never be worth what I paid, but sometimes we are ruled by the heart rather than the head. There are many tales of super finds, no true first of To kill a Mockingbird in pristine jacket so far, but it won't stop me looking.  Time to read, have a great evening.

Hi JRN,

the vase you show in the first pictures is a modern Chinese copy in my opinion. One clue is the painting style of the depicted people. A picture of the bottom is always helpful. 

I agree with Birgit,the Vase is attempting to be a Shunzhi period Vase.

The hexagonal plate appears to be a pattern generally termed “Hob in the Well” but the whole plate,front and back need to be shown to confirm origin as the pattern was copied in England as well as Germany.

Vic

I read something about "the boy in the well pattern" recently.  I can't remember where or why?  Does the story relate to an emperor or some well known person saving a boy from drowning?  Maybe I saw a piece for sale and went from there  I will see if I can find it.

I agree, the vase is not Kakiemon - or even Japanese.  As the others say, more pictures are needed to identify the origin of the plate.  

The Kakiemon style Plate appears to be by Du Paquier Factory,Vienna,mid 18th c.

Vic

That is interesting, I would definitely like to see more of it.

It was an 11th century historian that saved a child that had fallen into a huge vat of water.  Apologies, just noticed I wrote boy instead of hob - probably psychological as I cannot understand why it is called that, or why a well, for that matter.  There must be some reason for it. 

Found a kind of explanation:

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/208367

Hi JRN - 

Concur with Birgit’s, Vic’s and  Julia comments, the vase you posted is a modern copy of a known Shunzhi type/style ... 

Attached images of two vases, H. 28 and 37 cm, both from the Butler Family Coll, for comparison ... 

Stuart