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I wish to learn (yes, belatedly) about some dozen or so porcelains which I chose decades ago when my mother and grandmother died. I showed two pieces to Lars Tharp at the Antiques Road Show in London, but know nothing about the others. Two (sorry!) were already lamps by the early 1950s. I turn to you to help sharpen my eye. I doubt that any is sufficiently 'important' to be 'of museum quality,' but I still love them all. I have looked for 'similars' at the V&A and Ashmolean, and in various shops and houses in and around London. I no longer live in Britain so it is no longer easy for me to see things for myself. I am not interested in selling (although my children and grandchildren may be), but am interested in what you who are more knowledgeable than I think of them. I do know myself, and so I know that I may very well become interested in buying, once my eyes are clearer.
What were they 'for.'
Approximate date(s).
Whether they are 'good'.
Approximate range of their current +/- value.
Do my sorts of questions fit your criteria for this forum? If so, I'll be posting some pictures. If not, simply say so. I can handle 'No.'
Thank you!
You've come to the right place ? - If you upload clear, sharp photos here, I'm sure you will get some useful feedback. - All the best.
Hello,
Sure feel free to post some images with measurements, top, front, back and bottoms. its absolutely ok to share images and ask questions.
Best Peter
Peter
Thank you. Here is the first of what will be several posts cos I’m fortunate to have several pieces which I find interesting. I hope you do, too. Throughout, I’m interested in what you think.
Is the object authentic, and not a fake?
what was the object [originally] for?
what is the object’s approximate date?
what range of prices would such an object fetch, winter 2018?
Further observations?
(a) My mother’s bat-shaped, bat-covered dish.
Last spring I bought this famille rose pot in ebay because of its bats. I also like the flowers, crickets, amyflies,and even melon-ish vertical grooving. The base worries me, tho —is it a fake? Fortunately I did not pay very much...
Sorry I did not intend to post twice, and have failed attempt to delete the duplicate.
Help with this task also gratefully accepted!
again, I’m interested in what you think.
Is the object authentic, and not a fake?
what was the object [originally] for?
what is the object’s approximate date?
what range of prices would such an object fetch, winter 2018?
Further observations?
(b) My mother’s Prunus jar has been lamp for all of my 70 years, if not longer. On display in English National Trust houses I’ve seen jars with this pattern and other shapes (and other intensities of blue), *their* lamp- iterations presumably deriving from the early 20th century.
Of these jars, the smallest was my mother’s, and so presumably the oldest. The other two were gifts, purchased in England ca. 2005-2010. Maybe they are oldest; maybe they’re fakes.
Is the object authentic, and not a fake?
what was the object [originally] for?
what is the object’s approximate date?
what range of prices would such an object fetch, winter 2018?
Further observations?
(c) grass-green famille verte
I had a bit of help to augment what I’d saved from my allowance to pay $5 for this already chipped dish for my mother’s birthday in 1956.
My grandmother’s jar is also a lamp.
Am I right that we all know that there were times when lamping a pot was OK, and that now we’d prefer that pots NOT be lamps? Presumably value is unaffected on an prdonary pot? Other observations?
Photos of grandmother’s lamp. She owned many pieces of 18th-19thC furniture, carpets, and other objects. I do not know when or in what form she acquired the pot. There are actually 3 yellow creatures; the 3rd is a repeatmofmone of these.
I wonder whether this much worn perfume jar and hinge-lidded teapot are Asian or European?
Lastly, some glass, and so not your field — but perhaps you can direct me to someone whose field it is. I’m guessing early to mid 18thC Germany or England (e.g.,Hanoverean times).
Thank you, Peter, and thank you to everyone who looks in and offers observations.
Dear LGH,
you really have an interesting collection of many different things. As to the bat shaped piece I would date this to late 19th/early 20th century. The small pot with the bats just below seems to be Japanese because of the spur marks on the bottom. The tea pot is not Chinese either, this could be Gaudy Welsh. If you google "gaudy welsh teapot" and look at the pictures maybe you find something comparable.
Sorry that's all I can say but I'm sure others can tell you more about your collection.
Best regards
Shinigami
Birgit
This vase/lamp is Spanish... 19th Century or earlier - This tin glaze type was produced for a good 300 years, although the blue and white background is something I haven't seen before. - Nice example with these types of creatures. Value will differ, in different counties.
Teapot is English/Welsh, perfume jar possibly French (not English), Prunus jars are late 19th Century/early 20th Century.
This is just my opinion, not fact. ?
The glass looks more 19th century to me. Could be by the Austrian glassworks J&L Lobmeyr as they decorated glass in this way. Otherwise maybe a Bohemian glassworks?
The jars, plate and sectional dish all appear to be late 19th or early 20th C. examples. The three jars done in manner of Kangxi wares had a big revival in small forms around 1895 to 1920. The green dish is very typical of Chinese domestic wares of the time, rather folky and useful. The sectional dish was probably part of a set.
The non-Chinese things have already been covered.
Thanks for stopping in..!! I hope we've been able to help in your quest. The lamp is very nice, looks like a type of Talavera possibly. I also agree on the Tea Pot.
Best regards, Peter
Peter
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