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Chinese vase changed to the lamp, decorated with various flowers. Wooden base black painted, not very visible on the picture. What do you think about it? What period can it be? Should I try to unglue the base? If yes - any suggestions how to make it? I have no idea what kind of glue was used.
Dimensions: H without base - 27,1 cm, with base - 30 cm, diameter - 10,5 cm.
This vase is actually a late Qing period hat stand dating to the 19th century
The holes are to vent the hat due the climate in China
Personally I would refrain from removing the added base. It adds character.
Mark
Lysander,
I personally think this would be better as a lamp. Depending on the condition of the shade, if I didn't like it I would purchase a small deco shade and enjoy this hat stand as a lamp. Of course, up to you, but that's my opinion. Would hate to see such a nice piece damaged by removal.
George
Dear Lysander,
I may know exactly what it is. Sorry dear Mark I have to disagree a bit ?
The hat stand is Republic. It is important to see if it has a mark, because it could be a special one.
To take out the base you can use paint stripper. Do not be afraid of affecting the porcelain or the enamels, there are no problems at all.
Pass paint stripper and let work for some hours. If it is not enough, renovate it until it will detach.
When the job will be done, please post an image of the mark if it is there.
Regards
Giovanni
Dear George, we did post at the same time. The stand must be removed, I have reason for that. It may be important.
Regards
Giovanni
I did watch a video of the royal porcelain conservator removing old glue simply by soaking the piece in soapy water for a day or two. I haven’t tried it myself.
Nic
Dear All,
thank you very much for all answers.
@Giovanni: sure, I will follow your request. I worked in furniture and clocks restoration, got some experience and people who can help me. To know what kind of glue could be used there would help a lot. If it's natural bone glue - hot water would be enpugh. I will try tomorrow.
@Nic: thanks for advice, I will try.
Best regards,
Lysander
Dear Lysander,
so you have some experience with glues.
Anyway, be abolutely sure that, if you will be forced to use paint stripper, there will be no problems with the hat stand.
I use it since years with no problems, and restorers of porcelain also use it, as I know.
Giovanni
Dear Giovanni,
it was not so complicated, maybe 10 minutes, without damaging porcelain. Attached you will find pictures of the base. There is a stamp, is it what you've expected? Waiting for your answer with impatience.
Best regards,
Lysander
Excited here too!
Mysterious and excited to see if it will satisfy Giovanni's hunch but I observe the back mark with trepidation and fear that this vase is nothing more than a hatstand due to the high likelihood that it is late 19th- republic.
Hello, Lysander
your mark should have it in 1875 to1909 if you will soak in nails polish remover the glue will come off.
John
Dear Lysander,
unfortunately I do not have an exact answer, because the mark that I was hoping for is not the same.
But it is not excluded that it could be, because it is written in seal characters, and I am not able to read them.
The story is the following.
Look at the detail of a plate that I had and sold a few years ago:
You will see that the style of the decoration is the same of what seen on your hat stand. A very particular style, I have seen it only three times up to now.
Well, my plate had the mark that you can see here below:
The mark says "Baoping Zhuan Yon". Meaning "specially selected for Baoping's use".
Now, Baobing was a pseudonym for Zhang Zhidong (张之洞) (September 4, 1837 – October 5, 1909) who was an eminent Chinese politician during the late Qing dynasty.
My plate was of Imperial quality, hence probably a gift from the Court to a notable official.
Now, the mark on your hat stand is in another style. We need someone who can read it. If it has the same meaning, then you have a special piece.
Regards
Giovanni
Hi Lysander,
Four character mark reads:- 'Tong Zhi Nian Zhi', so 'Tong zhi reign made'.
Number 2900 in Gerald Davison's book
Stuart
Lysander and Giovanni,
Mark is stamped "Made during the Tongzhi Reign" 1861-75 and was commonly also applied on later GuangXu and Republic pieces as well. Luckily the hat stand is not drilled and design is much better than average. You now have a nice piece there.
George
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