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 Jeremy Beer
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Topic starter 09/03/2022 6:51 pm  

Hey Folks,

Thought I would post todays finds, some of which I knew going in and a few I wasn't to sure.  Then there are the few mysterious pieces, a cobalt-ground gilt  decorated Japanese bowl, with a mark I have never seen, and the yellow ground dish with a partial mark.  Also there is a little dish with a cannon, I haven't seen another. These are throwing me off, though the quality looks quite good....  Also can anyone tell me what the Jiangxi Jardiniere says on it, I suspect theres a date...

Anyways I hope you all enjoy, I absolutely love the cobalt ground bowl.

Cheers,

Jeremy

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 Jeremy Beer
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Topic starter 09/03/2022 6:52 pm  

The cobalt ground bowl....

It looks almost jet black but is just a really really dark cobalt.

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09/03/2022 7:52 pm  

Nice things! The one with the missing reign marks is interesting and I hope someone has seen that and knows the back story. I particularly like the chicken and crane dish, the little hexagonal one and the famille rose plate. Very nice!


   
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 Jeremy Beer
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Topic starter 09/03/2022 7:57 pm  

@johnshoe 

John,

Thanks you, yeah the missing reign mark one intrigues me, it really looks okay for early 20th century work, but I have never seen that.  I too love the crane and chicken dish, I think the mark is Jiangxi porcelain company form the 1940s...

I won these last week and was soo anxious to go pick them up... now Im thrilled.

Cheers,

Jeremy


   
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09/03/2022 8:19 pm  

Cannon/Mortar plate is my favourite.

 

Vic


   
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Topic starter 09/03/2022 8:26 pm  

@shine 

Thanks Vic,

I haven't got a clue what it is all about, but super interesting, its tiny too, like 3" across. 

I figure maybe 1950s or 60s.  Don't know.

Jeremy


   
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09/03/2022 8:53 pm  

The cricket cage would work well as a soap dish, if it did not stain so much you could use it to hold your tea bag, but it would stain too much and loose tea is better.


   
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Topic starter 09/03/2022 9:04 pm  

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Sharon,

It seems that maybe that is what it was used for, there is a bit of staining inside.  I've never thought of soap, but that's a very good idea.

Jeremy


   
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09/03/2022 10:28 pm  

You have 2 offering dishes. They usually have a footed rim for a base. Very impressive collection! 


   
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 Charles Bryan
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10/03/2022 1:21 am  

The front one and the right front look Qianlong to me.  The decoration on the cobalt ground bowl looks Japanese--is that a chrysanthemum in the middle?  The little four-footed dish I am a little suspicious of.  The rooster is beautiful, but crane looks like one I have seen on many PROC vases. 

I am guessing Guangxu on the yellow bowl; the designs look hand-drawn and neatly done, but gilding is a bit thick?  Is this consistent with what you think, Jeremy?

 

Charles

 


   
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10/03/2022 2:26 am  

My favorite is the rooster and crane dish. Jiangxi porcelain company is always good quality, even the later ones. I buy them whenever I find one. Your dish looks earlier than the 1940s to me. 

Birgit


   
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10/03/2022 2:52 am  

That's a nice collection! The spur marks on the base of the rooster and crane dish are unusual, I haven't seen them like that before.  Are there marks inside, I am thinking it may be from stacking?


   
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Topic starter 10/03/2022 9:26 am  

@shinigami 

Birgit,

I always love the quality of the Jiangxi pieces.  I was going off the stamped mark in my dating, I thought they were only from the 1940s through early 50s.  Though I suspect the side is dated so hope fully someone who can read it will know. 

I would have picked that piece as my favorite find, but the cobalt ground bowl really stands out as the oddity.  I haven't seen one like it before.

Jeremy


   
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Topic starter 10/03/2022 9:29 am  

@julia 

Thanks Julia,

I was wondering about the spur marks as well, and my conclusion was that because the feet were to the outside, perhaps they were worried the center would collapse, I see no indication inside that they were stacked, so I am just guessing. 

Have you ever come across a bowl like the cobalt one? I know you have seen far more Japanese pieces than me, but I am having trouble finding a similar one.

Cheers,

Jeremy


   
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Topic starter 10/03/2022 9:35 am  

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Charles,

The two front ones are Qianlong export for sure, those were the reason I really bid on the lot, although to be fair I also wanted to see the gilt cobalt bowl, which I do think is Japanese, though it has a lot of Chinese design elements, though it does also have the chrysanthemum in the center so I feel it is pretty solidly Japanese.

The rooster and the crane dish are a seemingly common decoration on Jiangxi pieces, or at least I have seen a similar crane on others before. I think it is republic,  but where in the period I am not sure.

The yellow one is stumping me, I honestly though Guangxu when I first picked it up, even with the thick gold on it the work seems pretty good.  What has thrown me off is the lack of a complete reign mark, that is something I have never seen.  It is definitely the mystery of the bunch for me, the foot looks good, the enameling looks good, and if it had a complete Guangxu mark, I would have never doubted it.

Jeremy


   
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