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Hi Everyone,
I just purchased this small plate on Ebay for $90 and the seller said it was 19th century but to me it looks 18th c., maybe early 18th c. What do you think? Could it be Kangxi?
I am a nut for pagoda scenes with boats, mountains and people. The blossoms & cracked ice pattern plus the beaded decoration combination seems unusual to me but the seller still has another one up for sale, slightly different (see the last photo and I'll include the Ebay link here in case you're interested). The beaded strings remind me of the Nanking pattern a little.
Regards,
Steve
I think it was a good buy for $90 as a19th c. piece that also looks to me as genuine Kangxi. Good buy!
Now, this is only my opinion baded on the photo that shows bright blue cobalt against an equally bright white porcelain, and the cracked ice design in the prunus border.
The Kangxi plates are a bit more thinly potted than the 19th c. copies, so you'll have to make that judgement yourself.
I don’t want to be the downer but the white line cracked ice is a 19th century trademark.
Good to know. I was wondering when it started.
So that was early 19th c.?
It seems to be thinly potted and in the photographs has a rich cobalt color, but I'll see what it's like in person.
@steve well don’t just go by my thought I have been wrong before. It does have a Kangxi blue look but I haven’t seen any with white ice but I have a few 19th century pieces with it.
This is fun to research.
The Worcester Art Museum has a vase with this pattern and they identify it as Kangxi.
Scroll down past the jade items.
In Oriental Blue and White by Sir Harry Garner (1970) it mentions but does not illustrate an example from the Transitional Period and says the pattern became popular in the Kangxi.
"Another blue and white piece of this reign [Shunzhi], bearing the four-character mark, is a smaller incense burner, decorated with plum blossoms and bamboo leaves on a background of cracked ice, the fore-runner of a type of decoration that was to become very popular in the next reign." (p. 44)
Sounds like it first became popular in the Kangzi era and continued through the late 19th c. and beyond.
Interesting, too, to note the symbolism of it of which I was unaware. According to the Worcester museum web site linked above:
'There also is a plum motif on this vase (Fig. 3) that conveys hope and grace under pressure. The “Cracked Ice Design” refers to the crackle glaze on the vase. “Cracks” are sui in Chinese. “Many cracks” are sui sui, which sounds like “year after year.” The message is wishing “hope and perseverance year after year.” The vase also is a pun. “Vase” is ping, and sounds like “peace,” so the message expands to, “May you have hope, perseverance, and peace, year after year.” This object, a “ginger jar,” may have only been an everyday container for tea, fruits, or other edibles, but it still conveys good wishes to anyone who views it.'
To English porcelain collectors it does, probably some value. I don't know.
Cracked ice is Kangxi. Cracked white ice 19th century. Kangxi cracked ice is usually blue toned.
Here is my Imperial
Daoguang copy white cracked ice vase. This one is carved white ice.
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