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Hello,
I have just came from France, 1 night shopping event 🙂
Here are the Asian items i bought:
- silk embroidery, circa 1970, a gift from Nieh Wen-Y, Legislative Yuan member
- small Guangxu bowl
- 19thC Japanese transfer-print plate with red enamel
- two Republic period containers with lids (1 unfortunately broken)
- 19thC famille rose enamel box
- two vintage cloisonne vases with rare bright colors
Now in terms of other items I have a polite request for your opinions:
- what do you think about those 2 jars? One with the lid looks like Kangxi to me...
- how about that wooden duck? It's old and have a nice black lacquer...
Many thanks,
Adrian
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Hi Adrian,
Please don't mad of me. All things you bought are not really collectibles. I would suggest you to buy some books about Chinese antiques and old Sotheby's and Christie's catalogues. You must upgrade you taste about Asian art. Otherwise you can't earn money during your free time antique/art dealer job. Wish you good luck 🙂
Best
Xin
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Hi Adrian,
The jar without a lid is a quite commonly found item. I have one, too, which I think is 19th century, yours probably is, too. Initially, I thought it may be earlier but I have leaned that the shape is wrong and the decoration too laid back. It has been a good learning piece and besides, I like it.
I don't think the other is Kangxi. Is that RK underneath?
Best wishes,
Julia
Hi Xin,
No, I am not mad at you, far from that. Solon used to say 'I am old and I am still learning'. Therefore I highly value any comments and advice. Mistakes are good when we can learn from them - this is the nature of this process. I am studying this subject consequently and already got some good academical publications I am going through. I am sure it is just a matter of time when I start collecting really good and rare items. I am sure I will surprise you with nice much better quality soon 🙂
All the best,
Adrian
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Hi Adrian,
Nice to hear that from you. Can't wait to see you get exciting things.
Greetings 🙂
Xin
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Hi Xin
You seem quite knowledgeable regarding Chinese antiques , I have been studying general Chinese antiques for a couple of years and am thinking of specialising in one area , Do you have any advice on which areas would be good to specialise . For example Monochrome , Kangxi , export?
Hi Julia,
Thank you for your comment. Yes, I admit that the coastal scene jar is a common pattern and you can find quite a lot of them on the internet, yet the prices are quite nice (especially when you paid for it few pounds like I did, so Xin is a bit wrong about what people are collecting these days). I agree it's a 19th century but it would be nice to establish what are the differences in shape and colouring you mentioned between 19th C and older pieces.
Regarding the lidded jar, I think this one is much better (moneywise as well), it is made of better clay and has better quality of glaze - when it has no lid on it and you gently strike it with a finger it gives you a very high and nice tone, that's a good quality porcelain feature. It has a lot of glaze contractions so I think it might be 19th Century rather than an older piece, but this can be misleading feature and it can be older in fact. I can add more pictures latter.
Best regards,
Adrian
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Hi Xin
You seem quite knowledgeable regarding Chinese antiques , I have been studying general Chinese antiques for a couple of years and am thinking of specialising in one area , Do you have any advice on which areas would be good to specialise . For example Monochrome , Kangxi , export?
Hi carlyoung,
If you are going to build a collection of porcelain. I would sugguest you to collect pieces from Kangxi and transitional period. Because the quality-price ratio is quite good now. And there are a lot of them. Of course it also depends on your budget. High quality pieces from these periods are not inexpensive.
Export porcelain is also quite a good area. But only high quality pieces are collectibles. High quality means vases, rear figures and so on in perfect condition. Armorial type is also very collectible.
I collect Chinese ceramics before Qianlong dynasty, jade and bronzes. If you want collect other things, I can tell you some later. Or discuss about collectiong ceramics.
Hopf this can help you.
Best
Xin
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Thanks Xin
Yes that is very helpful , I love ceramics and jade but find jade very hard learning curve, Bronze a little easier . I will explore the Kangxi and transitional periods as they sound interesting .
Hi Adrian,
I believe with an older version you would see better quality painting, for example, the 19th century versions seem to have what are more like approximations of things rather than being depictions of things. So, what I mean, because I realise that may not make much sense, is that the people would be more recognisably people rather than giving the impression of being people. There might be features instead of blobs.
The older shapes also have less of a slope down from the opening; thinking of it as a neck, the shoulders are flatter.
At least, that is what I have learnt. 🙂
Best wishes,
Julia
By the way, there is a version of your bowl coming up in a local auction, tomorrow. It is a more refined and, I think, older example. I will paste a pic or two. I may go to look at it.
Julia
Regarding shape, have just seen another jar with higher shoulders described as a late Kangxi-revival - so clearly, my comments are not absolutes just a general guide line to consider!
Hi Julia,
Thank you very much for sharing all of that with me, your comments mean a lot and I truly appreciate all your effort to highlight differences, details and your views. I am more than happy to see all of that. Knowledge is everything and that's what matters more to me than any profit. The subject itself is so fascinating to explore!
Regarding the jar, so far I think I have seen everything on the internet: there are people who list them as Ming 🙂 I feel hunger for skills on determining the true features of genuine pieces.
Many thanks for the photos of the bowl! Indeed it must be older then mine - probably it's mid 19th century, when mine is a copy from somewhere around 1904 I believe, with Tongzhi Nian Zhi stamp mark - there is a lot of pieces with this mark and quality comparable to mine bowl.
Thank you one more time, I've learnt a lot from you!
Kind regards,
Adrian
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Hi Adrian,
That is nice of you to say so, but remember I am just a beginner, too. These are only thibgs I have picked up on my learning journey and there may always be exceptions. I went to see the bowl as I was passing anyway, it isn't as nicely decorated as it looked in the photos, a bit messy in places.
Anyway, I was thinking about your lidded bowl and wondered if it might be what is called "kitchen qing" so I did a quick search. I found this:
Not exactly the same but it is a similar shape. Maybe a search on 19th c kamcheng might turn up more?
Best wishes,
Julia
Sorry, forgot the link as it is on ebay, too. https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/19C-Chinese-porcelain-kitchen-ch-ing-Qing-Lidded-Jar-Kamcheng-Foo-Dog-/132297618013
Hi Julia,
Thank you for that hint! Yes, I have seen this one earlier today but then I had to crack on with my work. I've followed the name 'kamcheng' - lidded jar and learnt few things already, thanks to you 🙂
Probably 19th century, Chinese but made for Singapore/Malaysia - Straits market, for kitchen use, like you have highlighted. I think that absolutely explains the shape and pure decoration. Some are calling it sweet pea pot, but anybody could store there any kind of food. The ones with proper decoration are really beautiful!
Thank you one more time 🙂
Regards,
Adrian
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