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Hey FOlks,
SO the last part of yesterdays finds is this, I made an offer and today they called me back and I got it. It is heavily and poorly over painted, definitely broken, and filthy. Any guesses before I clean it up? You can see a bit of the original poking through.... maybe Kangxi revival?
Been in the family for a few generations, same family the other stuff came from.
Oh and its massive! 21" tall and 12" wide
Cheers,
Jeremy
I can see why you are thinking 19th, but I am wondering if this might be older than that. I'm curious if that foot cleans up or if the darkness is baked in? I don't know much about transitional wares, but is it possible this could be one? Can you show a view down inside of it from the top?
Hey John,
I dream it is earlier, but I just can't imagine that it is, being that I just randomly stumbled upon it like this, though fingers crossed. the inside is very very dirty and oversprayed, I will get some shots once I pull it out of the bath tub. The outside painting is coming off, and Wow! the color is amazing!!!
Also the foot is definitely super white as it cleans up.
More pictures soon...
Jeremy
Here's a few more pics, the white is just fill covering more porcelain, needs a scalpel to come off.... A six pack of beer and a few hundred blades and we should see it by the weekend.... also a shot of the interior.
The blue is not as Icey in person, but it is pouring outside so maybe sunlight photos tomorrow...
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 yeah, I'm liking that foot. I have a hard time thinking this isn't at least 18th but maybe earlier. It will be good to see pictures of that blue in the sunshine to really see the actual color.
John,
I am looking forward to seeing it in the sun too, when I picked it up it was super gloomy out but the blue looks really nice. I too think the foot is looking better and better. I don't think it was cut down, though I haven't gotten to stripping the rim yet, but there is a bit of glaze visible, so I don't think it is. The upper flared part is 6.25" to the top of the orb and the bottom flared part is shorter, about 4.5". I will try to take some better angled shots tomorrow too so you can see the proportions.
Cheers,
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 Hey Jeremy!
Your photos are not close/clear enough to see how the slip looks, and whether or not there are signs of age / wood kiln firing/etc. However, I am slightly skeptical that such a poor repair would be made to a genuinely old piece. My gut tells me that the damage is to disguise a fake because the natural reaction to seeing a repair is to think, 'someone must have valued this piece to have spent the time gluing it back together.' Right?
Looking at this photo, I would not be convinced that the vase was old or of good enough quality to repair.
And, in the photo you show the underlying crack....Why such a wide white paint covering over a rather thin/hairline break (no actual loss of porcelain)? I may have mentioned that I was made aware of deliberate efforts to damage/repair modern pieces to make them look older. In fact, I've bought a few.
Very strange looking vase form, too.
Am I being overly skeptical? Sorry if I am.
Hey Tim,
For all I truly know you could be right, and I appreciate the skepticism.
I know of the family( by reputation and rumor only, Georgetown in DC is a small neighborhood), but a lot of good things, furniture, silver, and Asian wares have come out of their homes as they have passed, not famous or well known, but known here to have significant wealth. As for the sloppy restoration I would totally agree, there used to be a "restorer" in Georgetown, when I started in this business he was long retired, who was heavily patronized by the local families, and this was his style, god-awful I know, but I have had maybe half a dozen pieces that I have been told were restored by him, all done like this, this one I wasn't told, but judging by the previous owners living a few blocks away I can guess. I'll get better pics tomorrow in the sun, no real idea on this thing at all, I did find a few in this form as late Kangxi, and one or two as later, but yes it is unusual.
Until I am am told otherwise, my impression of it is Kangxi revival, late 19th century or there abouts, just my knee jerk reaction.
Always appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers,
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 Again, I trust your skills for finding some great stuff. I travel and buy in the D.C. area, so I know of the Chinese antique sellers operating in the area. Unfortunately, they've done a fairly good job of seeding a bunch of junk back into the market.
Let's see what your better photos show.
Jeremy, I am agreeing with your opinion of 19th century Kangxi revival. As Mark says, the faces aren't animated enough to be Kangxi.
Charles
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