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Topic starter 04/08/2024 11:07 pm  

Hi Everyone,

It's my first! 18 ½" with lots of gilding and pretty use of patterns. Meiji or later, right?

What is the mark, can anyone tell?

Thank you!

Cheers,

S

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04/08/2024 11:46 pm  

It's a beautiful charger. 

The mark is Uza-Fuku or Uzu-Huku.

Definitely Meiji period imo or even very late Edo period. So circa 1850-1900.

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05/08/2024 2:07 am  

It is very nice! In English, this mark is often referred to as a running fuku because it is in cursive script - or that is my understanding at least.😊

I have seen that border of dots before, and the reverse pattern. Perhaps other pieces displaying these may help date yours more precisely. 


   
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Topic starter 05/08/2024 10:18 am  

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Thank you! Good to know.

The cursive fuku mark seems to be associated with Hizen (Arita) ware of the late Edo? 

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05/08/2024 10:54 am  

Yes, but not exclusively so. I found a back with the noughts and crosses (I assume that is what yours are, I can't enlarge clearly enough) and a similar back border decoration on 1stDibs. They date theirs to the end of 19th c. 

https://www.1stdibs.com/fr/meubles/art-et-meubles-asiatiques/c%C3%A9ramique/grand-plat-de-service-japonais-en-porcelaine-imari-porcelain-avec-koi-p%C3%A9riode-meiji-fin-du-19e-si%C3%A8cle/id-f_36552812/

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05/08/2024 11:08 am  

As it's a very large charger it's only got from what I can see three spur marks. 

This would indicate to me that it is Meji period 1868-1912. The one cited by @julia has only one spur mark and is of a similar size but later than your one as in very late Meiji. 

Regardless its a stunning charger and I hope you enjoy it. 

Mark 

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05/08/2024 12:50 pm  

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Another great buy from Antique Colony, San Jose?

George


   
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Topic starter 05/08/2024 12:54 pm  

@julia Yes, they're little Xs. Good eye, thank you!


   
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Topic starter 05/08/2024 12:55 pm  

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Good point about the spurs. 

These types of designs were probably not in the Japanese taste but for export, correct? 

I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like in person. 

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Hi George,

Not this time (although we were there last Saturday. I bought this via Live Auctioneers from what looks like a newbie auction in Salinas of all places. 

I messed up by bidding on it before the auction as there were a lot of unsold items; I think I could have gotten a better deal. 

Nevertheless, I'm happy with it. And they offer in-house shipping; to SF it wasn't much.

How are you these days?

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05/08/2024 1:09 pm  

@steve 

Beautiful charger, good buy.

Still having trouble walking and can’t drive but today at San Luis Obispo with family, thinking of checking out the Highway 41 Antique Mall in Morro Bay. Hope to make a find such as your charger.

George


   
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05/08/2024 1:29 pm  

Hi Steve,

Agree, a very nice, high-quality charger. For a Japanese dish, the shape, with the flared rim, is better than the more common rounded shape. The rim is also deceptively of a higher quality, usually Edo. I would think this is late Edo. Is that cobalt really almost black or is your camera playing tricks? 
Todd

take it with a grain of salt


   
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05/08/2024 1:37 pm  

Todd, I love that dark blue colour - I hope it is a genuine reflection of the colour rather than a trick of the camera.  I agree that it has a good chance of being (very?) late Edo, even with only 3 spurs.

I wonder what caused the wear across part of the mark.  Maybe it has been stacked on top of something for a while.  

Steve it is a lovely plate, and George I hope you find something equally lovely!


   
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They are the auction house's photos. It looks black to me with the only blue being the pale blue of the roof and chicken wire (?). 

I'm curious to see how it will look in person; I just paid for it so it may be a few weeks yet 'till it's in my hot little hands. Then I need to figure out where to hang it.

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Nice Arita Charger 

 


   
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