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Went to my usual place this weekend and got almost nothing. Disappointed, figured I’d hit another place which is not nearly as well known and got some great stuff...go figure. This one piece is a mystery to me. Is it a bottle vase? A kendi? Its octagonal. Don’t know what to call it. Also, checked Gotheburg and couldn’t find a match for the characters. Anyone have any thoughts? Its a foot tall. Has sporadic crackle. Thanks, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Could it be a Japanese sauce bottle of some kind?
Julia
I would think it might be Korean...
I would agree it is probably a Japanese soy sauce bottle for the table... the mark looks typically Japanese
tam
After further research...the shape is Korean isn’t it? An “octagonal vase korean” google image search brings up four almost identical shaped vases, minus the spout and handle. (Can I still call it “research” when I am just using google images? If someone is imagining me in a big old library, scouring dusty books with a tweed jacket on, they are reaching....)
take it with a grain of salt
Not sure about the soy sauce theory. Way too big. I have a vintage soy sauce dispenser, here’s a pic for size comparison. Pouring soy sauce out of this bottle at the table would make quite a mess.... ? I suppose it would be possible to store a large amount of soy sauce in it, but even then, pouring it out would not be very practical.
take it with a grain of salt
ah yes , I missed the size of this , more likely to be a wine bottle .... the mark is definitely written in kanji/hanzi or chinese characters , but I don't know whether Korean potters used this kind of mark
tam
I missed the size, too. ?
Tam, yes maybe wine. I think Koreans do sometimes use Chinese characters...am hopeless at telling one from the other though.
Julia, that’s ok ? I usually put a soda bottle next to the piece...didn’t have one handy this time.
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Hello All
The piece is completely new and decorative. It was never a utilitarian "pourer". Looking at marks on Gotenberg is the last thing you should do when doing an appraisal. The mark is absolutely the last thing of importance and nearly always just more of a sign that the piece is a modern repro or fake or just a piece.
Kind regards
Hello All
The piece is completely new and decorative. It was never a utilitarian "pourer". Looking at marks on Gotenberg is the last thing you should do when doing an appraisal. The mark is absolutely the last thing of importance and nearly always just more of a sign that the piece is a modern repro or fake or just a piece.
Kind regards
I was looking around online, and came across a few things which make me wonder again about this piece. It seems the color is correct for an old piece. The blue has a silvery tint which matches well to known Korean items of the 18th and 19th. The piece does have signs of age. The pics I posted were not the greatest...
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2016/04/14/33664511.html
Granted, the 2nd item is an ebay auction, so that should be taken with a grain of salt.
The Christies item peaked my interest, so I’ve temporarily suspended using the vase to fill up my bird bath. ?
Its 11.5” tall.
Thanks for any help, Todd
Also, the artwork is quite well done in my opinion.
take it with a grain of salt
How about this one?
The shape is more elegant, isn’t it?
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Todd,
I didn't really appreciate that there is a hole in the handle - not that it makes me any the wiser as to what this is or when it was made but it does mean my initial suggestion needs retracting. I have never seen a modern-ish item with a hole in the handle like that. Does it go all the way through ie could you fill the vase/bottle from it?
Sorry I was so unobservant, in retrospect, that was a silly suggestion. ?
Julia
Hi Julia,
You are about as observant a person as I ever met. I own the piece and it didn’t occur to me that there’s a hole in the handle ? . The only thing I can think of, if a cork was in the top, then it would still pour smoothly, or maybe the mouth hole is aesthetic. I don’t actually pick it up by the handle though, for fear I will be left standing with a handle in my hand, and shards of pottery littered about the floor...
take it with a grain of salt
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