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Hi all, I think I saw another post with something similar here where it also looked like the "Willow" pattern that you see on that flow blue ware from Europe? This one looked a little different to me from the foot so I grabbed it.
Anyways, hope everyone is well and thanks so much as always!!
Grateful for the help everyone.. 🙂
Doug
😊 I am afraid Julia's not sure. 😊 The base looks unglazed which seems at odds with the front which looks later. I have trays, bowls from early 19th c with unglazed bases but the later ones are glazed, moreover the cross-hatching seems strange for the willow pattern made in the UK.
This looks printed but parts of it don't, as though it has been touched up by hand, or just the outlines we're printed and it was then washed in.
The border is unusual too, it isn't what I would expect to see. Can you see any joins that suggest a transfer print?
It doesn't look like an old Chinese piece, nor an old UK one; it could be European, but I only know a bit about Willow Pattern from the UK.
On the other hand, I am wondering if it might not be a modern Chinese copy. Here is typical Spode willow pattern, as you can see it is not the same thing, lots of little differences. Maybe Ron will know more.
Hmmm.. Ok so it is a bit unusual looking then. Yes the base is unglazed also, I think I recalled base like that in one of Peters videos on an old export Canton platter or something...I also noticed the light blue in the glaze also and have seen videos of Peter taking about them adding light cobalt to get a tiny bit of blue on some porcelains. And I am glad it isn't just me who thinks it looks half transfer and half hand painted.. lol Anyways, thanks for the help.. Interesting.
Just realised my comments were not totally clear - I was talking about English early willow pattern pieces, certainly in the first 3 paragraphs, but I have just checked something and the willow pattern I have from that period, does have a glazed bottom. Chinese pieces as you say, weren't glazed underneath but it looks like English pieces often were. The colour on yours isn't right either for it to be English transferware.
As I said, think it is possibly a Chinese copy. Apparently later copies were made in Japan and USA, too, but that border looks more Chinese and the little men remind me of something I have seen recently that was Chinese. They have quite a distinct look so you may be able to identify similar pieces from them or other parts of the pattern such as how the boat is drawn.
I think it’s a bit of Victorian over painted transfer ware, maybe part of a desk set. The Pattern has two repeats. If you look closely at the cross hatching you can see places were the transfer sat a little lighter on the blank. Also, notice the far right side were the transfer cuts off matches the complete transfer in the middle. Cross hatching is far to regular for hand painting. A bit of Staffordshire pottery I think.
Doug, is it porcelain or some kind of stoneware?
I agree it is printed, at least in parts, but I have never seen this pattern on English Staffordshire Blue Willow or onmthe more modern examples like Booths.
The cross-hatching and dots may appear but here they are excessive. The main issue for me, however, is partly the border partly the boat's shape, but mainly the people on the bridge, not just the clothing but the fact that they are lined up facing forward. On English pieces they face sideways.
Anyway, it has been bugging me a bit so I have been searching and I found this. Ignore the description, this is clearly not Ming but modern, please just look at the pattern, especially the boat and the people.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193501631689
Hi Doug,
I agree with the others: this is transfer ware although I don't know where it was made. Could be new Chinese. If you cross your eyes, you can see the two sides of the scenes match up exactly except for the boat.
Regards,
Steve
@julia It is porcelain Julia, I will check out the link.. sorry I want to do it before I reply but it takes me away from the page..lol Oh, I remember Peter was doing an assistant video for me on a Meiji period Imari vase I have and mentioned about the pinch of cobalt in the glaze that makes it very slight blue and this one has that same look as the glaze on the foot of my imari vase. I wonder if it could be Japanese? Ditto! The piece you linked me too has the same sort of look in the white glazed areas as well.. very very light blue hue which Peter said was done with Japanese pieces around the Meiji period (of course also Chinese but I am not qualified to say which ones).. Interesting.. the composition is very similar to my eye as the Bonsai Pot! Maybe same factory? sorry adding stuff Julia.. The un-glazed foot portion of the Pot you linked to looks identical to the unglazed bottom material on mine to my eye. Also the light (pinch of cobalt in the glaze) the blue hue is the same... whew! lol
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