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I purchased this and haven't received it yet.
It was described as Japanese. I wasn't able to find anything remotely similar, but bought it anyway. Today I saw this Kangxi bow in one of Peter's videos. It is actually the thumbnail to the video.
I am not saying it is the same thing, but it is closer than anything I found. I therefore looked through Kangxi immortals bowls, and think that this is the type, after which, it is modeled.
https://shangrila-antique.com/zh/product/18c-kangxi-chinese-porcelain-bowl-eight-immortals-attributes-shou-lou-antique/
But, for me, the quality of the painting is not a match for this or other Kangxi immortals bowls that I looked at. I actually prefer the one I purchased, artistically.
The mark is a mystery and I don't have a full view of the foot yet.
Any thoughts?
Thanks, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Just some observations...
The crazing suggests it's soft paste which I think is unusual. The foot is unglazed on the exterior and interior, while Peter's example is finished entirely on the exterior. And, the rendering is more detailed/more line work in the clothing.
For me, it does have a Japanese feel to it.
The Shangrila example looks watered down in color, rather overly shiney slip, so I suspect a modern piece.
The Shangrila piece has the typical Kangxi bottom and rim fritting. It looks shiny because the pictures are very bright.
Todd‘s bowl looks clearly Japanese to me. Look at the lady.
Birgit
Thanks Tim and Birgit,
I thought it was more likely still Japanese, also. But I wanted to get some more opinions from knowledgable members such as yourselves 🙂 .
The lady does look Japanese. A Japanese version of a Chinese immortals bowl it seems. I'm looking forward to getting a better look at it, I really like the artwork.
take it with a grain of salt
@watership It is interesting how yours has shaded or reddened highlighted areas. That could be a good sign. I look forward to seeing better pictures once you get it.
Thanks John,
I'll post more pics when it arrives...
take it with a grain of salt
This bowl could be Chinese blue de hue for Vietnamese market I’ve seen similar marks like this.
@watership I was just thinking it might have some good age and be nice quality. I think like others that Japanese is more likely.
Sorry for the late reply but I have spent hours being fascinated by the contradictions of this lovely bowl and trying (failing) to resolve them in my head.
Hi Julia,
Ohh, hours? I hope it was a labor of love 🙂 . Thanks for taking the time.
It hadn't even occurred to me that the patches of red are underglaze. Things just escape me sometimes. That is an interesting aspect.
When I started looking at this piece, I did arrive at Kutani...although far from certain. I don't think my efforts at research are as sophisticated as your's. It was just a feeling. Kutani is famous for the predominant red patterns, of course. But domestically they did produce blue and whites, and the quality could be high. But you know that already.
I expect to have it in about a week. This seller sometimes makes glaring omissions, such as the foot, but they do provide extra pictures if asked. In fact, they did just that for me, just a few days ago, regarding another item. I could have done that with this bowl, I suppose. But I was going to buy it anyway. Will post more pics soon!
take it with a grain of salt
@watership I looked in my Japanese porcelain book one trait that was evident was the Kutani bowls all seem to have the soft glaze crackle. I did also find a Japanese lady that was strikingly close to yours.
If everyone else is seeing tiny text, I apologise. I hit something when typing and the text went very strange after posting. I deleted it three times trying to make it look normal and in the end altered it off site. It looked OK last night, this morning, I can hardly read it! 🤣 Hope this one works.
Todd, I really enjoyed myself. I even dreamt about it last night. 😊
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