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Just bought this dish from a mall dealer who called this a Qing Famille Noir dish. Wasn’t so sure about it even being Asian but I liked the 19th century staple repairs and the dealer wanted out of it. Thoughts about it being Asian? It measures 11”x12”, no marks. A little bit of gold leaf outlining the veins of the leaf. Thanks. Regards, Terry.
Teriyaki, I do like the idea that some one thought it was worth repairing. Adds a bit of life to the bowl. I really don’t know what to make of the bowle itself. I don’t think it’s Chinese at all. Maybe a piece of Victorian majolica whimsy. I noticed on the underside it would appear to have had a paper pattern of the leaf veining layed down, then the blue was painted over and the pattern removed. If you look closely it would appear that the brush strokes stop at one vein edge and continue on the other side as if going over the pattern. You can clearly see what I mean looking at the dark blue brush stroke at the 10:00 position and again at the two strokes at the 4:00 position. In other areas as well.
i would be interested in hearing what the smart people have to say, my thoughts, Italian majolica.
This is a nice interesting piece.
I feel if it were Victorian (ie English) then the flowers would be different. They could be honeysuckle but are not depicted in a very British way. Also, would it be a frog on a cabbage leaf? It would almost certainly be marked, too. Not sure it is maiolica, either, it doesn't look quite right for that.
I am not convinced this is a cabbage leaf, either, as the stalk is wrong. So, given there is a frog, might it be a lily pad or lotus leaf?
Maybe the repair can give some clues, is that gold around the drill holes?
I am veering towards Japanese but not ruling out Chinese. Is the buyer someone who seems to know about the things they are selling?
Best wishes,
Julia
My first thoughts were: Europe with some Asian influence.
But now I think more like: Japan.
Regards,
Adrian
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I like it a lot, the little frog adds a nice touch. This type of repair was done all over the world I assume? And when did they stop repairing porcelain this way? I saw a repair like this in the Chinese movie “The Road Home”. I don’t own any pieces with a repair like this...never even seen one. But would like to own one. The repair itself takes quite a bit of work and some skill...if the movie was accurate.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hello teryjaki
to me it look like aChinese bushwasher I don't think it Japanese no spurs mark
they could not make plate or bowls in the 19c with out them. And Ronm l
thought you were one of the smart one I like read your post.The colors led me to China
and the shape is seen this in jade and porcelain brush washers before I could be
wrong. John
I would go for 19th century Japanese , maybe late 19th early 20th century Japanese.
Carla, Julia. I can see why you see Japanese. It does look like a water lily with the edges curled up. I think you might be on the right track. My thoughts tho are with Malka Arts, Asian influences on European porcelain if not miolica. Wasn’t aware that staples ( I believe they are called rivets in the trade) started out in China and spread. I shouldn’t be surprised though. Seems every thing starts in China.
John Steward, “one of the smart ones” not me, compared to most here on the foram I’m just a trifler.
Hello,
I was really into this subject for a while as the item of the question is simply stunning and it bothered me a lot to identify this.
I think John was right - 19th century brush washer, Chinese.
And it's not cabbage, but lotus leaf.
It's just beautiful.
I found a similar in Miller's catalogue, 9 inches, 7500-8500 GBP - that's a lot of money!
And the one in Miller's book doesn't have such a lovely decoration inside!
I'd tried to take a picture but it's just so small in the book that I failed to do it properly.
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Adrian
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Malka Art, good sleuthing, looks like John Steward had it correct and Julia wasn’t far off. A rare item with a proper period repair can often fetch big money.
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