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Dear masters and experts,
I found this at an antique store. The seller says that it's yuan. Is it genuine or a repro? If the latter, is it a good one, worth collecting? Thanks a bunch. luke
Dear Luke,
If it was Yuan that would make it at least 600 years old and worth a Kings ransom so even as a non expert I think I can safely say the dealers claim is very optimistic. I am sure that shortly the more expert members will pop in and give their opinion. Having said that it is a very large decorative item that appears undamaged so depending on the price being asked it might make a good buy. But if you looking to make a long term investment in an antique item I would tread with caution. I hope I am wrong and you have found the bargain of the century.
Cheers
Michael
Dear Michael, absolutely, you are making a lot of sense 😉 I am, however, still curious to know what this item is exactly, which would lead to the response of my second question, hopefully. Cheers, my friend. luke
Hi Luke,
Brett is right I think. It will be very interesting to hear what experienced collectors think because this certainly looks the part. It would catch my eye too!
I’d imagine that even if it’s 19th century it would be several thousand pounds/dollars/Euros?
Nic
Hi Nic, yes, I am totally with you!
Hi Luke,
Michael is right, a Yuan jar of this size would not stand around at the antique shop and would not be affordable. The jar looks like a recent fake, and the pattern on the upper rim seems printed. Some people buy just for decorative purposes, but then it shouldn't be more expensive than any modern jar of this size. If you want to buy to build a collection or for investment, keep away from this one.
Birgit
Hi Luke,
Here is what a real one looks like. (Not saying the one above is real or not real, I have no idea).
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Shinigami, I hear you. Thank you very much for your input. What makes me wonder is this: The painting of the figures, the floral decoration and the dragons, looks fine to me, and it looks like it has been drawn by hand - if it is, shouldn't it make it more valuable than just any other modern jar of the same size? luke
How much does the seller want for it?
Birgit
He decided to keep it for himself and not to sell it afterall
originally he asked for 10k usd
It’s worth a few hundred according to its size. Manual labor is still cheap in China, so they can produce hand painted items for astonishingly little money. If one of them sells from time to time for a high price they have made a bargain. The fact that the seller has retracted the article shows that he either has begun to doubt about it or that he knew it was a fake from the beginning.
There are many beautiful and truly antique items in the mid price range, you will surely find something better
Birgit
This jar doesn't have the typical shape of Yuan dynasty jar. The shape and motif on it are typical for Ming dynasty after Zhengde period.
The photos are out of focus and not good enough for review. Nevertheless the whole picture is mixed with motifs and elements which don't match to each other. It's a modern jar.
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Thanks Shinigami and Xin, if I ever happen to get hold of this jar again, I'll take better pics of it. best, luke
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