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Help needed in dating porcelain plaque
I may have an opportunity to purchase this plaque it is 45cm x 27cm. It is quite nicely painted overall but sort lacks detail or fine shading.
Would like to know if members think it's right for 19thc or early 20th. Perhaps brand new ?
Any help would be appreciated.
The faces are pseudo Republic, modern in my opinion. The leaves in the background look like made with a stamp. I wouldn’t buy it.
Hi Birgit, @shinigami
Yes I was concerned about the foliage clouds etc. Agree that is very likely a modern copy. It was offered to me to me by a part time dealer who operates out of open air markets shut down for covid so he is sending photo's to try and make sales. In one of my first posts to bidamount you taught me about the painting of leaves on Chinese porcelain, so I sort of knew that it was modern, just something about the faces i quite liked. Will let it go. Thanks for your reply hope all is well with you.
Definitely in my opinion a later day modern interpretation of a well-known depictions by Wang Qi (1884-1937). The level of intricate detail especially around the facial features is missing. Also note the lack of shading on the dabbed foliage.
Here are some samples of genuine artworks by Wang Qi from Simon Kwan's Republic period porcelain.
I submit that even though it's a modern copy it still has some value because of the quirky scene. Given the good size and framed (?) I would still buy it for $50.
Yes, decorative value and your guests unless fellow collectors will not take a loupe to it. Although fifty bucks might be a bit steep for me.
$50 aud which is about $35 usd. 💵🤣.
Mark and Sharon,
Well $50.00 is not much per sq centimeter. I quite like the guy scratching his leg whilst subduing a tiger. I seem to remember a folktale or legend about that and as Mark has found a painting with a similar subject it must be a well known one. It would look good in a restaurant.
It is not being sold with a frame and the asking price was a lot more than $50.00.
He also has this vase for sale at $200.00 I declined it even though I quite liked the glaze if it had been $50.00 I might of been tempted.
Mark do you know if vases were made during the Qing period with bases like the one on the offered vase.
I am not very good with peachbloom vases as such. My limited understanding is that they were made during said period.
My feeling is that the one offered to you was probably not old. Post 2nd half of the 20th century. I don't think it's expensive at $200 but I really don't know enough about these.
Hope Birgit/others can weigh in with their thoughts.
I would concur with Mark thoughts, the vase offered is post mid 20thC.
This vase type is called ‘Liuye’ ping or ‘Willow-leaf’ bottle, sometimes also called a’Guanyin’ vase ...
Attached images for comparison of genuine Kangxi examples:-
1/2:- Description/image of a piece from the Meiyintang Coll, Lot 20G, Sotheby’s HK 7 April 2011 ...
3:- Description/image of a piece ex Metropolitan Museum of Art New York, sold Lot 918, Christie’s NY 15 September 2016 ...
4:- Vase in the Baur Foundation of Far Eastern Art, Geneva ...
Thanks Mark and Stuart
my forum is not updating deleted cookies etc still no update managed to get here via a email link.
Seems to be some issues with the forum at the moment. So your not alone.
I have alerted Peter!
Hi Julia, Michael & others,
Hopefully the issue has been resolved. 😊
I'm not sure about that. When I go to the recent posts page, I still see the page as it was on 14th Sept. When I opened this thread the last post was on 14th Sept and I was told to log-in to reply. I hit the log-in button and automatically, without using my password or anything, the rest of the thread appeared and I can reply.
I imagine this will post but when I go back to recent posts, I probably won't be able to see that I replied.
I did tell Peter last night that it still wasn't working for me but he probably doesn't see my emails.
No, I can't see it. It says the last post is yours on 14th (4.09 pm) but when I open the topic, I can't see that either, only Michael's one at 1.18 pm.
Sorry to hijack your thread, Michael, but I can't start topics either - there is no apparent means to do so.
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