The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
Dear forum members
Today I've picked up some vases. One of them are obviously Japanese Imari, nicely painted but I'm not sure of the age.
Another pair seems to have Chinese style 6 character mark, Fake?
Thank you.
Hi Spartacus,
The Japanese vase is very nice. Beautiful design and would date IMO to early 20th Century .Nice buy.
The other pair of garlic style Chinese vases are IMO modern. Terrible looking overall with poorly executed and hastily finished. If I were you I would try to turn over this pair and keep the other.
You seem to be able to score unusual items on a regular basis. All bought in Thailand? Are you Thai or other, if I may ask?
Mark
Hello Mark
Thank you for your comments. I agree the pair of vases does not look good, I need to refine my taste in blue and white porcelain (luckily the cost of mistake is low so I keep trying).
Most items bought in Thailand or neighboring countries indeed. I am not Thai but Greek expat living here. With monsoon season upon us I've had time to devote more time to my newfound hobby, so I have large amount of items passing through my hands, luckily some are interesting 🙂
Best regards
Spartakos
Hi Spartakos -
Japanese is not really my area, so I would defer to Mark re dating, but a lovely vase with beautiful designs - a very nice example, IMO.
The 6 character mark on the two Chinese pieces reads 'Da Qing Qianlong Nian Zhi', so 'Great Qing Qianlong period(during) made' - reading 'Made during the Qianlong reign of the great Qing dynasty', the emperor who ruled China from 1736-1796. The mark is written in regular 'kaishu' script, but such marks are extremely rare, and were only used in the first few years of the reign. The mark was then replace and written in 'zhuanshu' seal form.
I would also concur with Marks thoughts - these are rather new and not particularly nice ... IMO.
Stuart
Hello Stuart
Thank you for the information. I just realized that I actually have other another japanese plate with the same mark, although that one is actually old (late Edo) and the mark is honorific. I made a mistake buying this pair, but at least it was cheap and I will have a chance to study them and hopefully not make this mistake again.
Somehow Japanese ceramics are easier for me, maybe because I've had more experience with them.
Off topic, would you please share if you know when glit satrted appearing on asian ceramics?
Best regards
Spartakos
Hi Spartakos -
I have seen a few Yuan dynasty blue monochrome wares with gilt decoration, and also some early Ming pieces, attributed to the Yongle and Xuande periods, but such pieces are exceptionally rare ...
I have not seen anything prior to the 14th century on Chinese wares, such design techniques were not part of the Song taste/style, and I can't recall seeing anything from other Asian countries prior to this date - but I could well be wrong in this ...
Stuart
Your are getting great stuff. It seems harder to get a definitive date for some Japanese Items. So maybe grab a book along the way also so that you do not end up with too much contemporary stuff.
Your doing very well wherever you are 🙂
Japanese seems safer from counterfeit which is why i sometimes prefer Japanese, but in saying that, I must admit that there is still a huge volume of Genuine decent quality Chinese Antique's on the market everyday that are quite obviously genuine and Japanese can also be faked and maybe victims of this in the future when the prices rises.
My Fukagawa arrived today. Courtesy of the generous seller it'sabeautifulday.
Very well packaged 🙂 Under £10
Dear Stuart
Thank you. I was under the impression that glit was a quiet recent thing, like 18th century. Will keep that in mind.
Dear Short Dong
That is a nice plate, seems to be a early example of Fukagawa koransha company. Recently we were discussing the relation to Fukagawa seiji on this forum.
Do you mean the slim neck Imari vase? Yes I got it, generally ceramics are sold by weight here, around 8usd per Kg, but the vase was charged extra due to it being "beautiful Chinese art" according to the seller, it cost me 13usd and the fake vases cost 7usd for the pair. Unfortunately I still have no clue as to who the maker is. Sent it for an evaluation request to Bonham's in case their specialists have an idea but they rarely reply.
Best regards
Spartakos
Mark
I meant to day thank you also for the explanation about Gilt on Asian Ceramics. I find what you said fascinating.
Sparkatos,
That is great value for that vase, it is a lovely vase of good quality and good condition, and you got a serious bargain. However if it is 1920's then that is now Antique so even better.
I will keep an eye out for that backmark, it is distinctive. The J shape marl at the end strikes a note. I have seen it many times. Just need to refresh my memory.
My plate i am not sure if it is all that old, but it does show that you can get japanese Ware at good prices in europe also. How on earth will you bring all of these ceramics back to the west 🙂
I can't see the mark on your plate clearly but it seems like a blue orchid, also the blue on your plate looks from the same time period as my imari vase it would make your plate a very early example of fukagawa koransha. And the prices you are scoring are great, shows how undervalued the japanese porcelain is now. Today i've picked up a pair of imari plates for 50 cents 🙂
Hi Spartakos, SD and all =
My apologise, a correction - just returned from spending the day with an old friend, an ex dealer who still collects with 40+years experience, who confirmed there are a small number of Song dynasty ceramics known which have some gilt decoration but, as with the Yuan/Ming pieces, such pieces are very rare ...
Stuart
I can't see the mark on your plate clearly but it seems like a blue orchid, also the blue on your plate looks from the same time period as my imari vase it would make your plate a very early example of fukagawa koransha. And the prices you are scoring are great, shows how undervalued the japanese porcelain is now. Today i've picked up a pair of imari plates for 50 cents 🙂
Hi Sparkatos,
I feel I paid full price for this bowl, it is not even 2 inches high and just short of 6 inches in diameter. Also the backmark is not very clear. I hope it is a koransha but I get a sense it might be mid 20th Century. I think the best deal i ever got was from babydragon but yes there are some good deals out there, there is not many people looking specifically for Fukagawa on ebay.
Better pictures.
Also Your plates that you posted, is that Backmark not mean made in Kyoto.
Latest Post: Erotic carved celadon? I must have lead a sheltered life, not seeing this before Our newest member: Pierre Jordaan Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.