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@greeno107 it’s funny you mention the bright light we looked all over the house for a daylight bulb and only had warm so I picking one up tonight just for this reason I will post new lighted pictures tonight.
Qianjiang ceramics painting is a term used to describe a type of over glaze enamelled ware which was very popular during the Late Qing/Early Republican Period. The term Qianjiang cai (enamels) or Qianjiang porcelain was only coined in the 1950s. Prior to that, annals or commentaries in late Qing and Republican period did not classify it as a new distinctive type of over-glaze enamel decorative technique on porcelain.
https://gotheborg.com/glossary/qianjiang.shtml
Qianjiang means literally "light umber" and is a Yuan Dynasty literati painting on paper style where the landscapes are outlined with ink and complemented by strokes of pale umber to designate the lit areas of the landscape. Qianjiang enamels was applied directly on the white glazed porcelain surface, giving the decoration the appearance of watercolor painting on silk or paper.
The decorations are pale in coloration and delicate in feeling, in sharp contrast to the richly almost gaudily painted porcelain of the time.
Qianjiang painting on porcelain flourished in the latter half of the 19th century up to the early Republic Period around 1910. Objects decorated in this style includes brush pots, tea wares, bowls, hat stands etc where a significant proportions being flat porcelain plaques made to be fitted into screens or furniture.
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@short-dong thanks I thought it was a style of artwork now I know it’s a process thanks my mistake in classification.
Here is a picture we’re the paint/ink has been loss and the carved porcelain is colorless. I’m usually a daylight spotlight. They measure 9x6 inches.
Birgit and Julia have already alluded to the things that most struck me when I saw the pictures - the crisp, Western perspective and the Japanese look of the faces. The lady playing the sheng, with her aquiline nose, could not look more Japanese.
Also, the orange brocade lining looks distinctly Japanese.
Brian, can you please identify the article you're referring to that discusses this kind of porcelain painting?
Regards,
John
@jjytlee here is the link you guys have requested thanks.
http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/ctenglish/2018/cs/201904/t20190425_800165881.html
We all have to keep in mind that when carving something the artwork cannot be duplicated as if it was painted your asking for details that simply can’t exist. On a 2 dimensional objection.
Brian, looks like you've really started something. I googled a bit, and there actually exists a website, www.keciyishu.com, devoted to the subject of carved porcelain, keci 刻瓷. There appear to be many late Qing examples shown on the site. Another bottomless pit...
Regards,
John
@jjytlee thanks for the link. It’s hard to see the craftsmanship in the photos seeing it in person under a magnifying glass is a different experience. I can actually see the carving and techniques. I look forward to learn more about this style and history I actually plan on keeping these I’m going to get the one plaque restored and new glass.
John I wanted to thank you again for the link you shared it was eye opening for me we have a lot to learn about Chinese art. I am more confident in these carved plaques. I believe now these carving are a depiction of a Ming scrolls the artist might had simply copied scrolls that were viewed at some point the style is unmistakable. After viewing the website I am understanding that we need to stop thinking everything was made one directional. I believe many independent artist created there own styles and no one source can be accepted. Thank you
@lotusblack That's an interesting point about artistic variations, and I think a valid one. The exception could be imperial wares, that were done in more predictable way. But outside of that anomalies certainly must exist. Of course, getting people to accept them is another matter entirely, as we are all aware. Just go to a concert and you will see, everyone wants to hear the songs they already know, nevermind that the songwriter just wrote a new tune that is his best ever. John
@lotusblack Brian, I never heard of carved porcelain, so thank you for the enlightenment!
That said, I think you need to reassess your plaques, and compare to the photos in the article.
The examples in the article show images that resemble brush paintings, wide and narrow strokes with a lot of depth in the rendering.
The article you posted reads:
“Beijing carved porcelain is crafted on the glazed surface of porcelain by utilizing the skills of chiseling, engraving, and carving to present various details of a traditional Chinese painting. Different lines are used as the basis to present the appearance and spirit of the pattern to be carved. The carved images are then colored with Chinese ink or colorful pigments. The clear contrast caused by the difference between the smooth glaze and all the harsh carved tracks give the porcelain new values in the eyes of collectors.”
So, when looking at your plaques, the decoration is purely composed of the same size thin scratches on the surface, and not carved as described in the article.
However, when comparing your plaques to the ivory miniature plaques, the similarity is quite obvious.
Your ‘clear’ photo in ‘good’ light that shows what the plaque is made of…. Come on! You can do better.
Even so…. The photo shows scratching, not carving, so I suspect the plaques might be Bakelight (plastic) if not ivory.
They are fine works of miniature calligraphy in my opinion.
“I believe now these carving are a depiction of a Ming scrolls the artist might had simply copied scrolls that were viewed at some point the style is unmistakable.”
Brian, is a quarter pounder from McDonalds the same as prime rib from Ruth Chris?
They both are derived from beef, but can you reasonably compare the two and say that are similar? No.
I like your miniature plaques…I’ve said that from the start. But, you are wandering down the wrong rabbit hole.
Miniature calligraphy plaques were novelties for the tourist tradition because they were small and easy to take home as tourist items.
A few artists elevated the quality to the level of collectible art.
Your plaque with the very long poem could be such an example.
Post clear pics of the calligraphy and let’s figure out the material of the plaque.
I support further research, but not the path you seem to be going with these comparisons to Ming painting masterpieces.
When you have to suck up your pride for the sake of art. I had the plaques looked at today. Tim was spot on etched Bakelite. I was told these would have been bright white but Bakelite turns cream color like ivory. So my dreams of carved porcelain are gone. Thanks everyone for you input. They were hand etched and painted with ink but the method would have not been so complicated. I was told these would have been the early day forgery as the plaques were made to deceive.
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