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I was wondering if anyone had any idea on the age of these Dragon plates. I just picked these up.
Japanese 20th century to my eyes.
I think they are probably 19th c chinese.
They look like 1870s or so Chinese export. There are a number of overglaze dragon patterns, and while I didn't find the exact one, the bottom looks good for mid to late 19th century.
Jeremy
It looks like a Chinese 19th c base to me, too. There is a very similar pair below but the base is different. As others have said, they were very popular. A couple of English companies used the design for dinner services, too, I have also seen a Japanese version, but I am pretty sure yours are Chinese.
Are the outlines printed? I can't tell.
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@julia I believe that link provided are miss labeled they are Japanese in my opinion. The plate in this topic is painted with a Japanese dragon. Chinese dragons are painted differently their scales are crosshatched Japan dragons tend to not paint scaled with a cross hatch pattern. The faces on Japanese dragons are more animated and the overall form of the Japanese dragon is much more stiff. The Japanese plates of this time frame early 19th/ early 20th century were very dark and the outlines very bold and corse stenciled as for the Chinese were light handed drawn. Here is my Japanese example. This is just an opinion. My plate has an origin mark
Maybe they are, I wasn't commenting on their origin, just that the base was different to the two that were posted.
However, I would disagree with some of your comments about dragon styles. I posted up a while back a 19th c chinese plate with 2 dragons, their faces were nicely animated and no cross-hatching for the scales. Besides, the base of these plates do not look Japanese to me.
Is your plate for sale? I am sure I saw a very similar one to it earlier today.
No it isn't the same but it has an additional mark on the back.
Apologies to Peter for hijacking the thread a bit, but in case you want to look, here is the link:
hmm Interesting, my first thought was that it was japanese, and an early dai nippon porcelain, because I have a dai nippon glued teapot and it looked very similar, but maybe it is a bit older, but now my teapot looks like Brian's dish, I will show you if I found it:) I don't know..
The three toes made me think Japanese at first. 😊 Just the back looked wrong to me.
Yes, you made me feel insecure 🙂
I am sorry! Not my intention. I talk too much, but it is always only my opinion and I am often wrong. Who knows, maybe a Chinese plate decorated in Japan. 😊
The mark is a Japanese mark
Just thought I would throw this up here, as a comparison of just the back of the dishes. This is a super late, Circa 1850s, Green Fitzhugh dish, really sloppy, but the foot is similar to the Peter's, minus the kiln grit of course.
Fairly certain his is ~1870s Chinese export.
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 I do believe the plate is likely to be Chinese pottery and you are right Peters is what I call Canton pottery. I’m sure there is another name for it’s form. Peters plate does look Canton. My plate was enameled in Japan but the blank was most likely pottered in China. This was known practice to buy blanks and enamel in another shop. Japanese and Chinese were coping each other closely at the time sometimes hard to tell what is what. If I saw a Chinese plate with a dragon painted like Peters with a Tongzhi or Guangxu mark I would change my thoughts on dragons of the period. But as for now I have only seen these dragons on Japanese painted pieces. I don’t think there has been enough data yet discovered this is why it is being discussed. If truly Chinese export I would think other examples exists so just got to keep looking for a comparable.
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