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Hello,
While waiting for another topic to be closed, I wanted to ask a question.
I was given a small sculpture, I think it is a bixie. It looked like brown jade but I asked a gemologist who claims it is saponaria. I was told it should be from the late Qing period, do you think it could be older?
Warm regards,
Giliu
What is saponaria, please? I looked it up and got a type of flower.
I like @julia have never heard of that term or stone before.
Its possible Nephrite jade.
Its difficult to determine because your images are low quality.
You would need to perform a specific gravity test. Or you could use a sharp knife and to make a small line. It should leave either a black or white line. The later would indicate that its not jade and therefore highly probable to be much later in date.
Its also possible late Qing or early 20th century.
Mark
@imperialfinegems https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapstone
I attach the link. The gemologist claims that this stone was used as early as the late Ming dynasty. It is different from jade, it is less valuable. He told me to have the style analysed because it is, as we all know, impossible to date stones.
If it is Soapstone you would be able to easily scratch it with your nail.
Your correct its impossible to date a stone but you can identify the style of carving for the period or thereabouts.
This colour of nephrite jade was used extensively during the Ming and early Qianlong periods.
i knew saponaria from saponification. it looked like soapstone in the first image, but after i looked at the the other images, there is a possibility of nephrite. the steel blade test could prove that it is not jade if it accepts a scratch. soapstone will very easily be scratched. just because it does not scratch does not prove that it is jade, but i would be comfortable describing it as jade if it does not scratch. a specific gravity test, which you can do at home, will help confirm nephrite.
@tonyatl @imperialfinegems I will do the scratch and density test in the morning. I will also attach a photo under sunlight.
I did the tests. The average density should be about 3÷3.5 kg/m3.
I used approximate means such as a kitchen scale and a measuring jug, so there may be an error.
I tried scratching it with the blade of Aisi316 steel scissors: pressing with little or medium force did not do anything, pressing a lot left metal marks that went away when you ran your finger over them. I had the idea that it was unscratchable.
I enclose photos under sunlight which also show the grain of the material well. There is also a greenish inclusion on the cheek.
Now you should also see the style better. Could it be late Qing?
Also, I would like to ask a question: how did they create jade sculptures with incredible detail, polishing them to perfection? Considering that not even an A316 steel blade can scratch it. Are there any books on the subject?
By the way, I have other sculptures I would like to show you; should I open another topic or can I continue this one?
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