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Hey Folks,
Just random a thing I bought. Honestly I just like it because its a nice fidgeting object, like I can't put it down. It just has a lovely texture. Figured I should make sure its fairly new before I play with it too much. Seems nicely carved, but tested in at 2.6 density, so I am guessing serpentine or something like that... not easily scratched though.
The other pieces I got with it were nephrite and agate. Not really interesting to me so I sent those to a local auction, where he thought late Qing on one or two and modern-ish on the other. None of them have chipping from on the edges, and seemed to be cut or ground as I can see striations but this one, because of the mottled appearance I can't see those, but I don't see chipped edges.
SO I have no idea.
Thanks for any info, and pardon my messed up fingernails.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
Yes I believe you are correct. It's highly probable to be serpentine and new. Looks like it's been acid treated to look old.
Did you sell the other pieces?
Mark
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the quick confirmation... acid etched makes sense, since its so soft feeling, I kinda like it... haha.
They haven't sold yet, but I handed them over. I only have a few pics from when I first got them. Sorry they are not that great.
Carving seems okay, but really not my area... so not sure how I'd judge it, but compared to that jade guanyin I posted ages ago, these are just less nice. tested them and they came in at 2.92-2.95, don't scratch easily, figured nephrite? The "bat" is agate most likely.
Thanks again,
Jeremy
If your instruments are accurate then the readings are incorrect for Nephrite Jade.
Jade will be between 3.2-3.5 SG.
Serpentine 2.2-2.9.
Generally speaking serpentine is easy to scratch but not always.
Bowenite and Quartz are very difficult to scratch and often sold as jadeite jade.
The piece's do actually look okay for jade but it's getting more and more difficult these days.
The crab is agate.
Mark
@imperialfinegems Hey Mark, since we are on the topic, do you think this is a modern acid etched piece as well?
Too difficult to determine by the pic's.
Are you sure this bangle is jade?
Ths quality is very low.
It's oddly carved with no polish which is very unusual... maybe acid treated to make it look old.
Mark
@imperialfinegems Several years ago I read that jewelers were repolishing old jade from broken pieces of jewelry and placing them in new settings, since it was just settings from jewelry (not carved) it did not make much difference, do you think they were using a buffing attachment to a jeweler's wheel or could you polish yourself with a buffing attachment to a Dremel and what kind of polish would they use, some type of wax? Would John's bracelet shine up well or is it better to leave in present state? When you were a jeweler did you ever have occasion to polish jade or translucent stone to improve appearance? I had an old stone that was from family and took it to a jeweler and she set into a silver ring for me, but I told her to not polish it, which was probably my sentimental mistake, it is the spinach color with black classic inclusions. I posted but you could not be sure from photo if it was jade or other, I don't think just polishing with a cloth would make any difference to appearance and if I had Jeremy or John pieces I would be too cowardly to take a Dremel buffer to them, that is why I wondered about jeweler's wheel.
Sorry I was a jeweller but i didn't make or repair jewellery myself. I was a retailer.
So I have never had to polish Jade's etc. The only polishing that I used to do was only on diamonds to enhance the colour visually quickly by a couple of grades.
Waxing is a common technique used primarily on Jadeite Jade and is a accepted technique. Very simple and really brightens up a stone.
There are numerous videos on YouTube with regards to polishing Jade's that you may be interested in viewing.
Johns bangle is too difficult to judge by way of pictures. However I believe it's been treated and aged. Assuming of course it's jade and not quartz.
So if you wanted to brighten up a Jade piece I would firstly suggest using the wax method. Very effective and can really brighten up a stone or carving.
Mark
Hey Mark,
Sorry my delayed response, yesterday was a busy day... I'll post a cool find in a bit.
Thanks for you the assessments and everyone this turning into an interesting thread.
I just want to clarify, because I always thought nephrite jade averaged at ~2.9-3.1sg and jadeite jade at 3.2-3.5, and I didn't know serpentine was that high I thought only really 2.6-2.7sg. My equipment is pretty cheap scale and water container and string, I took the average of a bunch of tests. My confusion I guess, stems from when I was researching the Siberian "jade", actually nephrite, panel I got, and was reading the average Siberian nephrite sg test was 2.95... I'll try and find that again.
I will give my buddy at the auction a heads, up but I'm sure he'll get them checked out.
Thanks again,
Jeremy
@imperialfinegems Thank you, I'll check out the YouTube videos.
@sharonp mine is probably newer, but if it was old then I wouldn't want to do anything to the surface because that would be like polishing off the patina of an old bronze.
An old G.I.A article on Jade stimulants and various techniques to testing said.
Mark
@imperialfinegems I watched them, a couple of guys used a wheel with a cotton buffing attachment, then a Scottish guy used 400 grit sandpaper followed by polishing with a Dremel small cotton buffing attachment, all three used a product called Fabuluster as polish, seemed to work great.
@imperialfinegems Enjoyed reading the G.I.A. article, thank you.
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