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Topic starter 16/07/2022 9:07 pm  

Need help I don’t know anything about brush pots all I know is they are being faked is this fake or legit? Thanks

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16/07/2022 9:14 pm  

I don't think it's fake, but nor does it seem all that old and it doesn't seem of great quality, so I would probably pass on it if you didn't buy it yet.    


   
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Topic starter 16/07/2022 9:35 pm  

@johnshoe I think this is pretty typical rendering for late 19th century. But those bamboo windows are unusual 


   
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16/07/2022 9:42 pm  

@lotusblack I would guess first half of the 20th, but I could be wrong. I don't think it is too rare for them to have reticulated parts - I've seen that on others and I have one that has some of that as well. 


   
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16/07/2022 9:44 pm  

In my opinion it's not 19th century but a much later 20th century example. 

If it's under about $20 it's OK. 

A lot of these are being produced lately 3D laser. Same with soapstone carvings.

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 16/07/2022 9:54 pm  

I don’t like that it’s missing that shine if you know what I mean looks dry. Maybe add some oil. It was $15 bucks. Slap this on EBay see if I get $60 

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16/07/2022 10:04 pm  

@lotusblack Here's one I have - it's one of my favorite things: 

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I asked Peter about it and he said it is probably early 20th. I just love the details in it. The work is pretty fine. 


   
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16/07/2022 10:14 pm  

I am no expert, but I agree with Mark on dating. It doesn't look very good. John's pot looks very nice though.

Todd

take it with a grain of salt


   
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17/07/2022 7:02 am  

@lotusblack check out this one of similar motif to compare difference in qualities:

https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/art-asia/carved-bamboo-go-players-brushpot-617/156120?ldp_breadcrumb=back


   
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17/07/2022 10:49 am  

@lotusblack How the bottom looks is often the best clue to these bamboo brushpot’s age.  

Do you want to post a pic of the bottom before putting it up on Ebay?

Based on the photos this far, I’m in agreement with others that the carving seems a little rigid for Qing period hand carving.


   
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17/07/2022 10:57 am  

Here’s the bottom of one I’m selling at Christie’s this September.

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17/07/2022 12:28 pm  

Don't forget that Japan also likes bamboo, but theirs were usually for flower arranging and would be simple in style.


   
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@greeno107 Tim when does yours date to?


   
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17/07/2022 2:33 pm  

@johnshoe I’m not sure a date has been set, but usually the end of September.  


   
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@greeno107 what I meant is how old is your brushpot?


   
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