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Hi, everyone. I recently bought these on eBay. They were on the Weekly Newsletter Page and I got them today.
I have some questions about them, though.
First, the characters on the front of the wall. In ancient Chinese writing sequence, which reads from right to left, the characters should be "门江章". However, here on the vase, it reads from left to right, which is the modern way of writing and reading. This is very suspicious.
Second, the cobalt blue seems to be pasted on the porcelain, not underglaze. Are they really 19 century? I am very confused.
Could anyone help me take a look at the these vases?
Thank you!
Here is the link of the item.
Not guaranteed. If it is off by a century, or Japanese labeled as Chinese and Peter thinks it is worth owning he will include them even if they are mislabeled.
@henry-x These are modern... if sold as 'antique' you should return them.
I'm not familiar with the policy on what is listed on the recommended Ebay newsletter, but I doubt any guarantee is ever implied.
@rahawkins Thanks a lot. What do you think of this pair of vases? Are they 19c or a modern copy?
@greeno107 Thank you.
I saw them on the Newsletter page and the price was good. So I just bid on them. I had my earlier doubts but I guess I just had too much confidence on Peter or his assistants.
They did sell as antique but I am afraid that return is very hard.
Here is the description by the seller called roundhouse-antiques.
"19th C. Pair Antique Chinese Porcelain Blue White Meiping Vase Qing Dynasty Ge
Exceptional pair of blue under glaze painted meiping form vases with a ge-type crackle glaze. Finely detailed scene of fortified temple. Carved mark with brown glaze under foot.
Dating from mid-1800s Qing Dynasty.
Measures 12.5" tall.
VG condition, firing line to rim of one vase. Please see photos."
The issue you mention with the calligraphy does seem strange and hard to ignore. However, I also think they look ok for late Qing, but I know these crackle vases with brown marks were made well into the 20th c and that it is often hard to be sure when dating them, especially if they don't have the brown etched faux bronze bands.
There is some info on Gotherborg which may be of interest or useful, assuming you haven't seen it already.
@shinigami Yeah. The shipping cost more than the vases themselves, though.
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