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Morning,
I have some Mughal seals and among them I have one that I can neither translate nor date. Usually in the others, there is a four-digit Islamic date, in this case I have only three.
I also cannot translate the inscription.
I don't know if this is the correct forum (in case do you know of any Islamic calligraphy or seal forums?), in the meantime I am attaching two photos (one normal and the other upside down, being a stamp it has to be reversed).
I thank you for your helpfulness.
Warm regards,
Mike
@jbeer2121 Hi Jeremy,
good morning,
this is Persian writing. As you know Persian and Arabic alphabet are the same but the wording and meaning of both languages are different .Reading and writing in both languages starts from right to left. The first word and the letters in the above starts from the bottom right corner where the year is written. The year is 1821 or 1812. Then the first word which is above the year is pronounced “bint” could be two meaning daughter of, or female. The next word which is in the middle where the middle 3 dots with the circle are located. The word Pronounced shakouh. This word in Arabic doesn’t make sense which could be Persian meaning. The final word is the top one where the top 3 dots are located along with the curving. That word means “shou-aage” also in Arabic translation doesn’t make sense and that what I believe the meaning is Persian but the year is the same in Persian and Arabic .
@asianafficiando i thank you for the help.
The inscription appears to be this:
بنت شکوه ع شحا
Is correct?
I just don't understand if the letters ه ع are correct like this or if ع goes at the end...
The year is 1281 (1864 AD).
@asianafficiando As also shown by the Ashmolean Museum, the year should never be reversed. For example:
The correct inscription is:
بنت شکوه شحاع ??
I have others seals, can I show you?
I am not sure, with the museum, the way I learned Arabic is writing everything from right to left but I might be wrong . Please don’t take my words as 100 percent accurate . I am not expert on the language. Sure you can show me more seals . I would be glad to help.
best
Nabil
@asianafficiando the next one is an ottoman silver seal (reversed picture). Is a woman name?
What is the symbol between the two words?
Hi,
the word is “Naamat Ameen” meaning is blessing Amen. Naamat could be name of a person or the word Blessing the second word is Ameen also could be used as someone name or as Amen. The year is 1322.I have spoken with an Arabic professor regarding the year . You are absolutely right . He said in proper Arabic the year is read from left to right .
@asianafficiando I now post perhaps the most diffivil. It is really peculiar because they used a Tughra for the name. I had to use the two-volume directions to figure it out but it should be Husayn Al Ali. What do you think about it?
1234 AH
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