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Any suggestions or opinions would be appreciated on these two plates.
Thanks
Plate 2
In my opinion the first is a Nanking plate from late 18th century. The second is a Qianlong plate. If you think about buying: both are not rare and could be found in better condition.
Birgit
In my opinion the first is a Nanking plate from late 18th century. The second is a Qianlong plate. If you think about buying: both are not rare and could be found in better condition.
Thank you Brigit. I have already bought unfortunately. I left a bid, I am thinking the market has crashed this summer.
I guess i can try get this combined to make it a half decent sale.
I was hoping this might be Yongzheng or Kangxi
Best Regards
Dave
The qianlong did not sell for £10 and the last plate did not sell either for £10. The Nanking sold for £12.50 to me. So it is great value but again I will have to stop leaving bids, as it seems the market is mixed at the moment. I suppose the great weather an the end of covid and lifting of restrictions has all money going elsewhere.
Regards
Dave
Sounds like a great time for buying. Unfortunately I just spent a larger sum for an authentic Kangxi prunus jar from Guest and Gray. So no shopping for a while 🙄
Aww, Well so far they all have some damage. Except that plate above which is in good condition. I guess the old adage Quality, condition and rarity always quickly come true when the market so much as jitters.
I guess i can try get this combined to make it a half decent sale.
I was hoping this might be Yongzheng or Kangxi
Best Regards
Dave
Is this worth a punt?
The last one you showed is Qianlong I think. A nice plate. I have a similar looking one with a rabbit sitting on the leaf in the middle. A few years ago I paid €120 for it with a hairline. I probably overpaid but I liked the design. By the way it was the worst hairline I ever encountered, the porcelain clearly moved on both sides of it. I didn't think that was possible. Cleaning and liquid superglue helped a lot.
Birgit
JE from Gotheborg said recently that 18th century export is knee deep in Europe right now. I’m figuring this is a metaphor for not selling well.
The big Nanking plate sold for £12.50 and i ledt a bid as a simlar sized plate sold for £100 in a recent auction last week. So I just thought it would be just fine to grab one for a fraction and I dont mind staples but i was not sure if it was genuine as buyers were not interested.
The 2 other plates did not sell and had a starting bid of £10.50 and regular postage price £5.
I have a fair idea of the price of antique Chinese Blue and white, I am by no means able to tell a qianlong from Kangxi but i can usually tell if they are genuine Antique blue and white.
My point being that i do more or less follow the price, and in the last 2 weeks the bottom has fallen out of the market. I have never seen prices this low, or bids not filling at prices this low. Basically the buyers are not here. However I do not belive this is indicative of the overall market but that demand has dropped due to circusmtances.
Also yongzeng plates are also strruggling to find good prices and these were until very recently enjoying a good upsurge in price.
You might expect these (listed as qianlong) to go for £10 but they did not have any bids. Unsold. The left hand plate has no cracks or hairlines.
This is the plate that sold in my local auction house just a few days back. I had left a £30 bid on it. It was in perfect condition. It was incorrectly listed as an english Ironstone. So i was greedy thinking..I might steal this 🙂 Obviously other bidders spotted the mistake too.
Mind you i have seen some selections of Spode plates sell for 200 euro so who knows.
Anyway they do look similar. So I am thinking £20 all in is better than 110 euro not including the percentage 21+ %
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