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Topic starter 14/03/2022 6:15 pm  

Some nice things!


   
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15/03/2022 3:29 am  

@william 

Hi William - 

Just looked through and would concur - some really nice pieces!! ...

Stuart 


   
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Yin Hall
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15/03/2022 9:29 am  

@ming1449 

What an amazing collection!  is this 19th.c Kangxi revival piece? 

https://doyle.com/auctions/22as01-asian-works-art/catalogue/175-pair-chinese-famille-verte-porcelain-vases

Thanks,

Yin


   
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15/03/2022 9:51 am  
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Some nice things!

@william thank you so much for pointing this out - I am excited about this one!

Justin


   
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15/03/2022 10:47 am  

@yinchris,

Hi  Yin,

A most impressive pair of vases. Not Kangxi revival imo.

Good size. However I would ask for better images and a condition report.

Mark 


   
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15/03/2022 3:41 pm  

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Hi Yin -

Really not my area at all but agree with Mark@imperialfinejems - these are impressive and the overall painting, although very dense, appears reasonably high …

If you are thinking of bidding, again concur with Marks comments re: obtaining much better images and full condition report …

Others here, including Julia@julia and Birgit@shinigami, may be able to help with attributed dating …

Stuart 

 

 


   
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15/03/2022 5:32 pm  

I had a quick look earlier and also thought they were very nicely done, but it was interesting that no date was given. I will look again tomorrow but wonder what others think about that.

Or maybe I missed it?


   
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16/03/2022 1:50 pm  
I have just looked again and I now see it says Qing dynasty - it really was a very quick look, yesterday. 😊 I still find it odd to give that broad age range when so many elements suggest late 19th c/early 20th c.  The picture quality deteriorates when I enlarge the zoomed areas, but a few of the women's faces look ok for then although maybe the boys look later?
 
To be honest, I am not sure of the age.  As Mark says, if you are going to bid, ask for close-ups; it is strange that there are none especially with the vague date. Personally, I don't think the vases are as well done as I initially thought, for example, the birds are poor and there is lots of rough filling in or washing over the outlines. 
 
There are also the dots that are used extensively to infill the background. They may be fine, but we have seen those at least three times on here recently on pieces where there was doubt over the age being what it was trying to be. 
 
 
 

   
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16/03/2022 2:03 pm  

I wouldn't bid on it without having additional closeups. The faces could be of the rather rare 1880 type with the bent noses and the decoration would fit into that style also. Several elements remind me of my vase with the cut down top which is also of this category. But it's impossible to be sure from the pictures.

Birgit


   
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16/03/2022 2:15 pm  

Just managed to draw the pictures a bit larger and am quite sure the vases are of that special type made 1870-90. Some scenes like the people on the table or at the window are very much the same on my small vase. If in good condition these vases could be worth leaving a bid. 

Birgit


   
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16/03/2022 2:48 pm  

Thank Mike, Julia and Birgit for double checking on this, I had my doubt and going to leave it alone. Thank you soooooooo much everyone!

Yin


   
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18/03/2022 12:42 am  

They have some interesting things at Doyle now and then. This white-glazed moonflask is dated to the late Ming/early Qing and estimated at 15,000 - 20,000 dollars. If it should turn out to be a Yongle period example it could have a potential value at one million dollars or more.

 

https://doyle.com/auctions/22as01-asian-works-art/catalogue/123-fine-chinese-incised-white-porcelain-flask-form-vase

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18/03/2022 12:44 am  

A similar moonflask at Sothebys but of the Yongle period.

 

http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2017/04/09/35150124.html


   
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18/03/2022 12:50 am  

And yet another one at FREEMAN'S but described as 'possibly 18th century'.

 

https://www.freemansauction.com/auction/lot/141-a-chinese-ming-style-incised-white-glazed-porcelain-moonflask/?lot=552202&sd=1


   
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18/03/2022 10:07 am  

I personally like this celadon jade rhyton stated to be of the Qing dynasty but a modest estimate at 5,000 - 7,000.

https://doyle.com/auctions/22as01-asian-works-art/catalogue/74-fine-chinese-carved-celadon-jade-rhyton-cup


   
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