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Peter talk about this one in his latest video. I can't wait to see what it brings ine the end. Terrible condition but up at $7700 already.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265337383146?hash=item3dc75728ea:g:qroAAOSwwcFhVcEh
Now up at $7800. I almost can't believe it. Has republic period copies of imperial revolving vases really gone up that much that collectors are willing to cash out so much money for examples in said condition. This is good news for me. I have one with a small damage that is either 20th century or possibly Qianlong period that has a small damage. (A small break-off that can easily be restuck.) And I was considering it near worthless if 20th and not Qianlong period. If of the period a typical estimate for such a thing would be $5m. (Because of the damage.)
But I can see a related republic period vase sold at Christie's for hk$375k this year.
An intact Qianlong mark and period example sold a Sotheby's in 2020 for $9m reflecting the low estimate.
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2020/06/19/38380254.html
Almost immediately relisted for $12,100 usd. With No International shipping.
Interesting....... 🤔
Mark
I thought that would happen. That it wouldn't be paid for and relisted. But it's strange that it was relisted immediatly with a buy-it-now price. Peter says in his latest video that he know the seller and have talked to him about the vase.
The same vase is on again accept shipping worldwide. Peter follows up on it in his two latest videos. He says it was a Chinese bidder that didn't pay as it so often happens wit Chinese bidders everywhere. Up at $3500 so far.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265371000721?hash=item3dc9581f91:g:qroAAOSwwcFhVcEh
Normally, I would be tempted to bid on a rare Republic piece, but I'm hung up on the decor and design. It's not that I questions its age (definately Republic period), but I've been staring at it ....just trying to make sense of what it suppose to be, and its meaning behind its decor.
A lot of themes piled together, bats (fu), Shou symbols, Buddhist symbols, clouds, sgraviatto, and scrolling lotus.
The form kind of looks like a bird cage, or a large cricket cage in a double dourd form, but then it has that plate shaped bottom and ornate handles.
Finally, it rotates!
Holy cow! It just about has everything but the kitchen sink thrown into it.
The most attractive photo is that of the bottom with the mark nicely centered.
Anyone want to help me understand the piece? Is it based upon a famous early Qianlong design?
I believe there is a similar Qianlong period vase in the imperial collection but I can't seem to find it right now. If you surf around on this site you may find it there. Picture shows a related Qianlong revolving vase.
https://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/item/00/33/49/d2.html
@greeno107 I am so glad you posted this. I have been casually watching this piece and I have no idea why buy I am not enamored with it in the way that I usually am by these reticulated/rotating pieces. Granted, I may be comparing it to the great rare Qianlong examples, but I agree with you - I can't put my finger on why I don't find it aesthetically appealing to me.
Having said all of that, I 100% appreciate what this is and I hope the seller gets as much as he/she can for it!!!
@jg1133 Setting aside the quality of the rendering, I think unlike Qianlong examples that have small windows that offers just a peak at the rotating design, kind of peep show kind of quality that can be very alluring, this one is a cage with wide open spaces... the inner design is in full reveal.
Lingerai vs. full frontal nudity?
Is that too vulgar of an analogy?
I know what you mean but yes, a distasteful analogy.
Frankly, I find the vase inelegant, partly due to the distracting number of patterns thrown together. It lacks cohesion.
If the vase at eBay was Qianlong mark and period and intact the estimate at one of the majors would probably be around $5m.
There is a related piece comming up at Bonhams now, probably the pair to a similar revolving bowl at Shanghai Museum. Missing its cover and seem to have some damage to it - Not sure. It has a very conservative £40,000 -£60,000 estimate but have the potential to go much higher, possibly even above one million??
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26627/lot/305/?category=list&length=12&page=9
This is possibly the vase which is in the imperial collection. I'm not sure. There might be more than one also.
This ralated vase is at the NPM.
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